Russian bases could be established in Cuba and...Venezuela

#1
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080721/114500746.html

Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba in a bid to counter U.S. plans to deploy a missile shield in Central Europe, a Russian daily reported on Monday.
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"While they are deploying the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, our strategic bombers will already be landing in Cuba," a high-placed military aviation source told the Izvestia newspaper.

Russia's Tu-160 (Blackjack) and Tu-95 (Bear) strategic bombers are both capable of reaching Cuba.

However, while the source admitted that the possibility of Russian bombers being stationed in Cuba was for now just a hypothetical possibility, he also noted that the rumors had not appeared from out of thin air.
Interesting rumors, though from my point of view Russian doesn't need bases on Cuba. By the way what our American friends would say if 10 lovely missiles would be deployed there?
 
#3
KGB_resident said:
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080721/114500746.html

Russian combat aircraft could return to Cuba in a bid to counter U.S. plans to deploy a missile shield in Central Europe, a Russian daily reported on Monday.
...
"While they are deploying the missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, our strategic bombers will already be landing in Cuba," a high-placed military aviation source told the Izvestia newspaper.

Russia's Tu-160 (Blackjack) and Tu-95 (Bear) strategic bombers are both capable of reaching Cuba.

However, while the source admitted that the possibility of Russian bombers being stationed in Cuba was for now just a hypothetical possibility, he also noted that the rumors had not appeared from out of thin air.
Interesting rumors, though from my point of view Russian doesn't need bases on Cuba. By the way what our American friends would say if 10 lovely missiles would be deployed there?


10 lovely missiles? What you going to do Sergei, paint them pink with decorative sun flowers? :D
 
#4
Drlligaf said:
10 lovely missiles? What you going to do Sergei, paint them pink with decorative sun flowers? :D
Why not? Our American friends plan to deploy 10 missiles in Poland and apparently would not allow to check what warheads exactly they have. By contrast the Russians would show the missiles with lovely doves depicted on them.
 
#5
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/2008072...80722221300;_ylt=Ao9ETdfQRM_k5t67dIPx77CQOrgF

Russia would cross "a red line for the United States of America" if it were to base nuclear capable bombers in Cuba, a top US air force officer warned on Tuesday.

"If they did I think we should stand strong and indicate that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America," said General Norton Schwartz, nominated to be the air force's chief of staff.
However, our American friends are unable to prevent such a development.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-23-chavez-russia_N.htm?csp=34

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said that military cooperation with Russia is proceeding and suggested that Russia should open a military base in the South American country
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The maverick president also said Venezuela would welcome Russian military bases in the South American country.

"If Russian armed forces would like to come to Venezuela, they will be welcomed warmly," Chavez told the news conference, Interfax reported. "We will raise flags, beat drums and sing songs, because our allies will come."
 
#6
KGB_resident said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080722/wl_afp/usrussiacubamilitarynuclear_080722221300;_ylt=Ao9ETdfQRM_k5t67dIPx77CQOrgF

Russia would cross "a red line for the United States of America" if it were to base nuclear capable bombers in Cuba, a top US air force officer warned on Tuesday.

"If they did I think we should stand strong and indicate that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America," said General Norton Schwartz, nominated to be the air force's chief of staff.
However, our American friends are unable to prevent such a development.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-23-chavez-russia_N.htm?csp=34

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said that military cooperation with Russia is proceeding and suggested that Russia should open a military base in the South American country
...
The maverick president also said Venezuela would welcome Russian military bases in the South American country.

"If Russian armed forces would like to come to Venezuela, they will be welcomed warmly," Chavez told the news conference, Interfax reported. "We will raise flags, beat drums and sing songs, because our allies will come."
Sergey, as much as I know you enjoy such "mental masturbation" fantasizing over such hypothetical events, the US would never allow that, in Cuba or Venezuela. Chav(ez) would find himself hiding in a spider hole with a full beard like someone else we know.
 
#7
Well, for the Ruskies to build anything in Cube they would need to imort EVERYTHING! The country is so poor it can't even pay attention!

But on the other hand, hot russian chicks in Havana giving it large to some dirty reggaeton does seem apealing... ahi na'ma!
 
#8
I agree with Ghost, a good general rule is to not mess with the Yanks these days...it seldom ends well for them.

And thats just what we need, another standoff with Russia with no result again.

damn your Propoganda and counter intelligence sergey!!!
 
#11
ghost_us said:
KGB_resident said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080722/wl_afp/usrussiacubamilitarynuclear_080722221300;_ylt=Ao9ETdfQRM_k5t67dIPx77CQOrgF

Russia would cross "a red line for the United States of America" if it were to base nuclear capable bombers in Cuba, a top US air force officer warned on Tuesday.

"If they did I think we should stand strong and indicate that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America," said General Norton Schwartz, nominated to be the air force's chief of staff.
However, our American friends are unable to prevent such a development.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-07-23-chavez-russia_N.htm?csp=34

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said that military cooperation with Russia is proceeding and suggested that Russia should open a military base in the South American country
...
The maverick president also said Venezuela would welcome Russian military bases in the South American country.

"If Russian armed forces would like to come to Venezuela, they will be welcomed warmly," Chavez told the news conference, Interfax reported. "We will raise flags, beat drums and sing songs, because our allies will come."
Sergey, as much as I know you enjoy such "mental masturbation" fantasizing over such hypothetical events, the US would never allow that, in Cuba or Venezuela. Chav(ez) would find himself hiding in a spider hole with a full beard like someone else we know.
Ghost, personally I believe that Russia doesn't need military bases both in Cuba and Venezuela. However, it is not so bad idea to have refueling points for planes (including strategic bombers). I don't think that the USA is able to do anything with it (except unleashing WW3 of course).

By the way USA has established (plans to establish) a lot of military bases near Russia. So Russia at least has a moral right to establish own ones. Why not? And Russia doesn't plan to attack the USA.
 
#12
Considering how "popular" the Russians are with the average Cubano these days after the whole slipping out in the middle of the night and letting the Cuban ecomony dive into the toilet back in 1989, one wonders what whover dreamed this one up was smoking.
 
#14
DANJANOU said:
Considering how "popular" the Russians are with the average Cubano these days after the whole slipping out in the middle of the night and letting the Cuban ecomony dive into the toilet back in 1989, one wonders what whover dreamed this one up was smoking.
Yes, the Soviet union stopped to sponsor Cuban economy but what the USA and the UK did? Maybe helped the Cubans?

Russia really is in a good position. Many Cubans studied in the Soviet union (doctors, engineers, soldiers). Cuba is being visited by Russian tourists.

By the way, I have heard that Russian criminals released from the jail like to visit Cuba (after Siberian camps). Cheap food, cheap drink, cheap women...
 
#15
Today a top US General told Russia to "fcuk off".... or words to similar effect.

Seems someone in Russia "seiously" thinks that positioning a mere 10 Anti-ICBM Interceptor missiles which operate on kinetic force alone and hold no nuclear payload (all while offering to allow Russia to join in and take a look) to strategically mitigate not having something in place to protect sensitive regions like Isreal equates to...

Oh about $2billion in Russian arms deal to Chavez, moving nukes into Cuba, and setting up a long range Airbase there... Go figure.
 
#16
Well the Americans are always "do as I say, not as I do"...

But then again, the Russian gentlemen are only welcomed in Finland as shoppers nowadays rather than as military "visitors". Sadly technology means we cannot give them a bloody nose like "last time" even though it cost us dear (financially in the end, although in hindsight that also spurred our economy later on).

Having Americans in our back garden would not make me feel any safer thank you.

The Ghurkas would be welcome. There is a shortage of good curry here (and the retired ghurkas can knock some heads if they undertake security work).
 
#17
Majorpain said:
10 MISSILES???!!!!!!

To counter Russia's 1,000+ warheads?
Not to mention the minor small fact that Russia even shares a border (more or less) with Alaska and can always lop a few missiles around that way should it ever want to.

Or can Ballistic missiles only be flown from East to West

I think the Russians have completely forgot about their Eastern/Pacific Ocean region
 
#18
They were only rumors (these speculations about the bases). But...

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080724/114834367.html

Russian S-300 air-defense missile systems would enable Venezuela to fully ensure the security of its hydrocarbon resources, a Russian military expert said Thursday.

"Needless to say, should S-300s be delivered to Venezuela, they would effectively strengthen its defense capability, and it would not be easy for its possible adversaries to punish the country by striking at its oil fields," former Air Force commander Gen. Anatoly Kornukov said.

He added that as an oil-rich country Venezuela had to protect its natural resources.

"It is difficult to say how many air-defense systems Venezuela would need, since it has to protect not separate sites, but its entire territory," he said, adding that 10 S-300 battalions, each comprising six launchers, "should be enough."
From whom exactly Venezuela had to protect its natural resources? Likely from international terrorists.
 
#19
Russia is not interested in establishing bases outside of Russia. It is, though, embarking on an economic war against the USA (payback for round one of the Cold War) and Congress is far too interested in overpaid baseball players taking steroids and a ridiculously long drawn out Presidential selection process to realise it. Oil, or the lack of it, is only a temporary set back for the USA - food production - something the USA is good at - will be the deciding factor in this changing world. And Chavez? He'd last about as long as a plastic rat in hell if he and his Soviet - sorry Russian - ally attempted to disrupt the flow of Venezuelan oil to the USA. Cuba will eventually adopt a Chinese style of socialism and open its borders to western style capitalism - all Russia can give them right now is weapons - they yearn for good quality consumer products - something Russia can't give them.
 

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#20
I don't think that the USA is able to do anything with it (except unleashing WW3 of course).
Really? You ought read up on Latin American history mate. Uncle Sam has never been shy of destabilising and overthrowing regimes it didn't like the smell of.
 

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