Russian Arty in Ukraine

[Goatman]

Hola vacqueros,

rather than bury this 15 minute examination of Russian artillery in the rumbling juggernaut of the Uraine thread, thought it might be of interest to the specialist community.

Anyway, have a brief dekko:

 

[Bubbles_Barker]

Interesting to see how different their training films/range practices are from the reality of their appalling performance thus far.

 

[Andy Farman]

What is the barrel life of those guns and how many replacement barrels and hydraulic parts do they have in the stores?

 

[Andy Farman]

Interesting to see how different their training films/range practices are from the reality of their appalling performance thus far.

I assume these are the Guards units that Putin keeps close, fat, well trained and happy, just in case the proletariat decide that a change in leadership would be nice.

 

[Syledis]

What is the barrel life of those guns and how many replacement barrels and hydraulic parts do they have in the stores?

I cant see the Russians worrying to much about barrel wear and accuracy if they are knocking out grid squares

 

[Bubbles_Barker]

I cant see the Russians worrying to much about barrel wear and accuracy if they are knocking out grid squares

The point is that knocking out a grid square isn’t good enough.

Barrel wear is a bitch if you have a bore premature.

 

[Syledis]

The point is that knocking out a grid square isn’t good enough.

Barrel wear is a bitch if you have a bore premature.

Last point is a fair one.

 

[Goatman]

I assume these are the Guards units that Putin keeps close, fat, well trained and happy, just in case the proletariat decide that a change in leadership would be nice.

I don't think yer man is pushing a pro-Putin agenda at all...the Youtube preamble acknowledges the source of the various clips i.e

Footage: Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation https://creativecommons.org/licenses/...
The NATO Channel
Ministry of Defence of Estonia
Department of Defense (US) "The appearance of U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) visual information does not imply or constitute DoD endorsement."
KCNA - North Korea State Media

 

[Andy Farman]

I don't think yer man is pushing a pro-Putin agenda at all...the Youtube preamble acknowledges the source of the various clips i.e

Footage: Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation https://creativecommons.org/licenses/...
The NATO Channel
Ministry of Defence of Estonia
Department of Defense (US) "The appearance of U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) visual information does not imply or constitute DoD endorsement."
KCNA - North Korea State Media

I was not suggesting he was pro-Putin, I was just suggesting a possible reason why the well-drilled professionals in the propaganda vid were absent from the field of battle.

 

[Andy Farman]

I cant see the Russians worrying to much about barrel wear and accuracy if they are knocking out grid squares

True

 

[smartascarrots]

The Ukrainians are suffering badly from Russian artillery, and crying out for more of their own. I think that says it all.

 

[Flight]

Russians will run out of artillery shells???

....

Ok, if you say so Bro.

Seen a great many attempts to hopium away Russian cruise and ballistic missiles too, generally along the lines of only x many days worth of stocks left. The chances of anything coming from Mars etc....

 

[JustARandomPost]

Last point is a fair one.

If the barrel wear is bad enough you may even be hitting the wrong grid square. Which could be bad news for the local livestock, or even your own SOF types who've neen lurking in the immediate area to take advantage of the promised 'precsion' artillery strike before launching 'Operation Russia Stronk'.

 

[4(T)]

If the barrel wear is bad enough you may even be hitting the wrong grid square. Which could be bad news for the local livestock, or even your own SOF types who've neen lurking in the immediate area to take advantage of the promised 'precsion' artillery strike before launching 'Operation Russia Stronk'.

I doubt they care about accuracy, or even losing a few crews to prematures - a drop in the ocean, given the c.40k men and 10k vehicles they've already lost.

Despite the self-congratulatory tomes they wrote about Soviet tactical brilliance in WW2, the reality is that really their only tactical and intellectual capability since 1942 or so has been grid square removal - soldiers, infrastructure, civilians, cities; extermination of everything in a combined political/military objective.


Back OT, I'd side with the view that the Russians probably have many millions of shells available, and that their condition or age is immaterial if it can be chambered and fired. The Soviet era essentially ran war production as a semi-uncontrollable aspect of their centralised state system. They generated vast quantities of material, much of it completely unnecessary. A city I worked in had a civil defence warehouse with about a million gas masks piled up vs a civil population in Soviet times of only about 55k.

 

[JustARandomPost]

I doubt they care about accuracy, or even losing a few crews to prematures - a drop in the ocean, given the c.40k men and 10k vehicles they've already lost.

Despite the self-congratulatory tomes they wrote about Soviet tactical brilliance in WW2, the reality is that really their only tactical and intellectual capability since 1942 or so has been grid square removal - soldiers, infrastructure, civilians, cities; extermination of everything in a combined political/military objective.


Back OT, I'd side with the view that the Russians probably have many millions of shells available, and that their condition or age is immaterial if it can be chambered and fired. The Soviet era essentially ran war production as a semi-uncontrollable aspect of their centralised state system. They generated vast quantities of material, much of it completely unnecessary. A city I worked in had a civil defence warehouse with about a million gas masks piled up vs a civil population in Soviet times of only about 55k.

Understood, but I suspect losing crews to prematures isn't going to do much for their gunner's morale, and if that's the last effective branch they have, then...