Russia - Rogue Nation at it again

[Grey Fox]

Another clear demonstration of the Septic misunderstanding of Russia (and the whole Free World).
Venezuela Presents an Opportunity for Peace With Russia

They want to suggest deal 'something for nothing' - largest oil reserves of Venezuela for useless promise to stop NATO expansion, and say that Russia 'fear' NATO.
First - Russia don't 'fear' NATO because ready to burn it out at the any moment.
Second - fair deal is a 'continent for continent' - 'Russia go away from America, USAgo away from Eurasia (including Europe, Middle East and South East Asia).
Third, there will be no deal even if USA will promise to dismiss NATO, and free Alaska, because Yanks are not truthworthly enough to make any deals.

 

[Lindermyer]

Old violation - is a violation, too.

But not a new violation and a new dangerous action as you claimed - of course that bit of agitprop will work elsewhere -

. May be, it is the time to Russia to sell nuclear weapon to Iran. May be not exectly 'sell nuclear weapon', but sell some Tu-22M5 and deploy some H-32 missiles with nuclear warheads, on their territory, and teaching Persian Generals and pilots to use it? With tranfer to them in a case of the foreign agression?

Feel free - dont be to surprised though when they end up winging your way

 

[Grey Fox]

But not a new violation and a new dangerous action as you claimed - of course that bit of agitprop will work elsewhere -

I didn't say that it is a 'new' dangerous action. It is continue of old, stupid course of treaties violation and demontage of the World's safety system. And it is exactly what we call 'dangerous' actions.

 

[Lindermyer]

I didn't say that it is a 'new' dangerous action. It is continue of old, stupid course of treaties violation and demontage of the World's safety system. And it is exactly what we call 'dangerous' actions.

I suppose you will now come up with some convoluted reason why Russia doing the same in the cold war is completely different and not dangerous at all.

 

[Grey Fox]

I suppose you will now come up with some convoluted reason why Russia doing the same in the cold war is completely different and not dangerous at all.

Actions of Russia have goal to decrease danger [for Russia], so they are not dangerous [for Russia]. Is it unclear? Giving nukes to Germany decrease danger for Germany and USA (while it is just gravity bombs, not ICBMs), but increase danger for Russia, France and the UK.

 

[Lindermyer]

How unsurprising
US Distributed Nuclear weapons around NATO = bad make world more dangerous.
Soviet Union Distributed around the Warsaw pact = good make the world safer.

Of course some how in another of Yars leaps of logic* The US is now increasing the danger even more if the Germans replace Tornado with F18

*Read - what can we chuck out there onto conspiraloon sites and as memes that will look in depth and meaningful to people who dont look past the headline.

 

[Grey Fox]

How unsurprising
US Distributed Nuclear weapons around NATO = bad make world more dangerous.

USA disturbed tactical nuclear weapon to Germany - make world more safe for USA and Germany, but less safe to the UK, France and Russia.

Soviet Union Distributed around the Warsaw pact = good make the world safer.

Russia disturbed nuclear weapon to Iran and DPRK - make world more safe for Russia, DPRK and Iran and less safe for Saidis, Israil, Japan and USA.

 

[Resasi]

May be, it is the time to Russia to sell nuclear weapon to Iran. May be not exectly 'sell nuclear weapon', but sell some Tu-22M5 and deploy some H-32 missiles with nuclear warheads, on their territory, and teaching Persian Generals and pilots to use it? With tranfer to them in a case of the foreign agression?

Surely that is pretty much what the Russians are already doing in Syria, and plan to do in Turkey?

 

[Grey Fox]

Surely that is pretty much what the Russians are already doing in Syria, and plan to do in Turkey?

Sure, Russians have nuclear weapon in Syria, but, they don't give it to Syrians, and don't teach Syrian soldiers to use it, yet. They (Syrians) are still in the war with Israil, where Russia have some special interests.

 

[Resasi]

That's very pragmatic.

 

[Grey Fox]

Another article from Septic cowards. They tell about "risk" of the nuclear war...
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
But some of them are optimistic - they hope to win the new nuclear race. Poor stupid things, they lost even remains of their nuclear industry.
With Trump Set To Exit The INF Treaty, We're Headed Toward A New Nuclear Arms Race

 

[Resasi]

MAD is a reality.

Trump, Putin, the fat kid...and a couple of others would do well by us by remembering it, as they happily caper about on the cliff edge.

 

[undervalued]

Another clear demonstration of the Septic misunderstanding of Russia (and the whole Free World).
Venezuela Presents an Opportunity for Peace With Russia

They want to suggest deal 'something for nothing' - largest oil reserves of Venezuela for useless promise to stop NATO expansion, and say that Russia 'fear' NATO.
First - Russia don't 'fear' NATO because ready to burn it out at the any moment.
Second - fair deal is a 'continent for continent' - 'Russia go away from America, USAgo away from Eurasia (including Europe, Middle East and South East Asia).
Third, there will be no deal even if USA will promise to dismiss NATO, and free Alaska, because Yanks are not truthworthly enough to make any deals.

You do post some sh!t. But carry on, keep us laughing.

 

[undervalued]

Sure, Russians have nuclear weapon in Syria, but, they don't give it to Syrians, and don't teach Syrian soldiers to use it, yet. They (Syrians) are still in the war with Israil, where Russia have some special interests.

They had accidents with the AA systems you gave them.
You wouldn't want to risk them going anywhere near nukes.

 

[Grey Fox]

They had accidents with the AA systems you gave them.
You wouldn't want to risk them going anywhere near nukes.

Yanks think that there is no risk to give nukes to Germans. And there is really not much risk for them. But there is a risk for Eurooeans.

 

[undervalued]

Yanks think that there is no risk to give nukes to Germans. And there is really not much risk for them. But there is a risk for Eurooeans.

WTF are Eurooeans?
Can't you lot find someone who can spell?

Edited because my phone can spell better than @Grey Fox.

 

[Grey Fox]

MAD is a reality.

No. Not with current very limitrd number of old warheads.

Trump, Putin, the fat kid...and a couple of others would do well by us by remembering it, as they happily caper about on the cliff edge.

Somebody 'caper', and somebody run to it, willing to jump :

 

[Lindermyer]

Yanks think that there is no risk to give nukes to Germans. And there is really not much risk for them. But there is a risk for Eurooeans.

Stop being a tit - The US has not given the Germans (or anyone else) Nuclear weapons

At the point they do fit them to a German Plane - then its been decided to use them so theres a clear danger and target in mind at which point Germany isn't really going to be considering using them against its allies.

 

[Resasi]

Somebody 'caper', and somebody run to it, willing to jump :

Liked that.

 

[Grey Fox]

Funny Sweden article about Russia, but one is most demonstrative:

"Russia is preparing to fight regional wars that could be protracted, against supposed actors of the Order of China or Nato," says research leader Johan Norberg, who wrote the report."

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In the matter of fact, Russia prepare not only to regional, but to the global war, too.