Russia - Rogue Nation at it again

You've never been outside Russia you lying turd.
I think be was part of a SWAT team that came to the UK to show what Russians are really like.

Not Special Weapons And Tactics of course, but Socialist Workers Annual Twatfest.
 
I think be was part of a SWAT team that came to the UK to show what Russians are really like.

Not Special Weapons And Tactics of course, but Socialist Workers Annual Twatfest.
Wouldn't it be a Socialist Workers Annual Rapefest, or is that such a common occurance that an annual event would seem a little crass
 

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Just for lulz. The clowns from Rand Corp. had written article about Russia and China:
"Russia and China represent distinct challenges to U.S. national security. Russia is not a peer or near-peer competitor but rather a well-armed rogue state that seeks to subvert an international order it can never hope to dominate. In contrast, China is a peer competitor that wants to shape an international order that it can aspire to dominate. Both countries seek to alter the status quo, but only Russia has attacked neighboring states, annexed conquered territory, and supported insurgent forces seeking to detach yet more territory. Russia assassinates its opponents at home and abroad, interferes in foreign elections, subverts foreign democracies, and works to undermine European and Atlantic institutions. In contrast, China's growing influence is based largely on more-positive measures: trade, investment, and development assistance. These attributes make China a less immediate threat but a much greater long-term challenge."

Russia Is a Rogue, Not a Peer; China Is a Peer, Not a Rogue
 
Just for lulz. The clowns from Rand Corp. had written article about Russia and China:
"Russia and China represent distinct challenges to U.S. national security. Russia is not a peer or near-peer competitor but rather a well-armed rogue state that seeks to subvert an international order it can never hope to dominate. In contrast, China is a peer competitor that wants to shape an international order that it can aspire to dominate. Both countries seek to alter the status quo, but only Russia has attacked neighboring states, annexed conquered territory, and supported insurgent forces seeking to detach yet more territory. Russia assassinates its opponents at home and abroad, interferes in foreign elections, subverts foreign democracies, and works to undermine European and Atlantic institutions. In contrast, China's growing influence is based largely on more-positive measures: trade, investment, and development assistance. These attributes make China a less immediate threat but a much greater long-term challenge."

Russia Is a Rogue, Not a Peer; China Is a Peer, Not a Rogue
Looks pretty accurate to most of us.
 

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Our headlines involve a Labour MP charged with speeding and lying about it. Questions are asked as to why someone of that character could have become an MP.

Meanwhile in Russia: Russian politician detained in parliament in connection with 2010 murders

Now that rather puts our own Parliament in perspective. We may have MPs charged with speeding, perverting the course of justice and fraudulently claiming expenses, but (to my knowledge) none of them have been charged with shooting political activists and potential witnesses in a £350million corruption investigation. Perhaps Rauf Arashukov has designs on becoming Tzar? After all, if Putin can do it, why can't he?
 

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Our headlines involve a Labour MP charged with speeding and lying about it. Questions are asked as to why someone of that character could have become an MP.

Meanwhile in Russia: Russian politician detained in parliament in connection with 2010 murders

Now that rather puts our own Parliament in perspective. We may have MPs charged with speeding, perverting the course of justice and fraudulently claiming expenses, but (to my knowledge) none of them have been charged with shooting political activists and potential witnesses in a £350million corruption investigation.
Oh, it is just evidence of British corruption. Some of British MPs murder other high ranked people as well. But British justice is rather cheap.
Perhaps Rauf Arashukov has designs on becoming Tzar? After all, if Putin can do it, why can't he?
He-he-he. Try to guess, in what country with the cheapest justice he would try to buy a shelter?
 

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Who'd have thought it. A Russian writing an article about Putin and Russia.

And if you want my view, the article isn't Russophobic.
First, she is not Russian (at least not in the narrow meaning of this word) - she is Jewish, living in USA since 2012.
Second, when Septics with British roots try to analise Russian mindset, they write even more stupid things, for example:

How Russia Plans to Win the “Hybrid War” - The American Interest

or this:
NATO's secretary general is wrong: The US must do more to counter Russian tactical nuclear weapons
 
Grey Fox, post: 9066417, member: 155341"]First, she is not Russian (at least not in the narrow meaning of this word) - she is Jewish, living in USA since 2012.
What has her being Jewish got to do with it? Are you showing your fascist thinking again?

In anycase, she was born and lived in Russia so has a good understanding of Russia.

And as I said, her article is not Russophobic. It's an opinion about certain aspects of Russia.

You thinking it's Russophobic is just your own phobia's and paranoia.

Second, when Septics with British roots try to analise Russian mindset, they write even more stupid things, for example:

How Russia Plans to Win the “Hybrid War” - The American Interest

or this:
NATO's secretary general is wrong: The US must do more to counter Russian tactical nuclear weapons
An when we hear about Russian commentary abut the west, such as by Kiseylev, then we think the Russians are just stupid and don't understand the west.
 

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What has her being Jewish got to do with it? Are you showing your fascist thinking again?
Ha! You said, that she is Russian, but you are wrong - she is Jeweish, living in USA, who has been previously living in Russia. I hope, you see the difference.

In anycase, she was born and lived in Russia so has a good understanding of Russia.
Ha! Hardly anybody have 'understanding' of Russia. As Tiutchev said (one of possible translations):
"Don't cover Russia with your mind,
Don't use your norms for understanding:
It has its outstanding kind -
You must believe without fading."
(More translations here:

Педы оения Ф. И. Тюа «Умом Ро не поня.»)
Second: her understanding is better, than of ordinary Unrussian, but rather bad.
Typical Septic, even well-educated, see world as a playyard for one gamer, fulfilled with NPC without their own goals and strategies:
The Fourth Founding

And as I said, her article is not Russophobic. It's an opinion about certain aspects of Russia.
You thinking it's Russophobic is just your own phobia's and paranoia.
He-he-he... "When you think, that Russians know your thoughts - it is paranoia, when you think that you know Russians thoughts - it is shizophrenia". Her describe of Russian nucleophylia is Russophobic (or Christianophobic) because it is incomplete, and desribe only Orthodoxal Christians. In fact, many of Russian Jews, Atheists and Muslims love nukes, too. And yes, many of nucleophyles don't believe in the "nuclear apocalipislype".
An when we hear about Russian commentary abut the west, such as by Kiseylev, then we think the Russians are just stupid and don't understand the west.
Yes, Russians hardly can understand Westies (or Unrussian Easties, too) but Russian understanding of West is much more better than the West understanding of Russia. You can say, that Kiseliov's words about West are 'stupid', but Russians say, that Bennets words about Russia are nothing but 'shizophrenic delusion'.
 

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Russia’s dangerous flying...again. To some seriously bragging sounding rhetoric...even though I don’t understand Russian.
Nothing dangerous. The Septic violation of of international treaties (including non-prolifiration treaty) and nuclerisation of Germany - this is really dangerous.
 
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Nothing dangerous. The Septic violation of of international treaties (including non-prolifiration treaty) and nuclerisation of Germany - this is really dangerous.
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No violation* and no nuclearization** of Germany

Are you really as ill informed as you make out or is this attempt to portray an arrangement that began during the cold war as a new thing just another bit of agitprop.


* I will agree that it can be argued either way based on interpretation of "directly or indirectly acquire" I go with no violation as Germany has no access its all US controlled

**Edit for clarity - even if you consider the arrangement to be a violation of npt etc - then its still not the nuclearization of Germany as in this case Germany has been a Nuclear power for about 50 years - So its not a new dangerous development.
 
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No violation* and no nuclearization** of Germany

Are you really as ill informed as you make out or is this attempt to portray an arrangement that began during the cold war as a new thing just another bit of agitprop.


* I will agree that it can be argued either way based on interpretation of "directly or indirectly acquire" I go with no violation as Germany has no access its all US controlled

**Edit for clarity - even if you consider the arrangement to be a violation of npt etc - then its still not the nuclearization of Germany as in this case Germany has been a Nuclear power for about 50 years - So its not a new dangerous development.
Old violation - is a violation, too. May be, it is the time to Russia to sell nuclear weapon to Iran. May be not exectly 'sell nuclear weapon', but sell some Tu-22M5 and deploy some H-32 missiles with nuclear warheads, on their territory, and teaching Persian Generals and pilots to use it? With tranfer to them in a case of the foreign agression?
 
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