Russia Report - Read all about it.

If this letter had been written by a Conservative MP he/she would have been accused of stoking up a new Cold War? Given the awe with which Russia/USSR was and is held within sections of the Labour Party, see no further than Corbyn's attitude to Salisbury, plus other connections and cash in the past, this letter is pretty rich!

Probably news to Kevan Jones MP who sits on the Committee that produced the report too?
 
I must say I have enjoyed this visit to the ward.

Does show that Russia played a blinder against us too.

Tribes fighting nicely amongst ourselves (on the issues that we know they messed around in), we've too scared to check the elephant in the corner, and they've bought what counts and we've either (a) too chicken to check that either or (b) doing nicely out of it and so don't want to upset the apple cart.

And magic grandpa and his tribe are just cnuts who'll do anything for ideology for a system that collased decades ago and is replace by a nationalist autocracy (who probably agree with my assessment of them too, google translate tells me the word is пизда in Russian so lets see if that gets starred out too?)

Cool. Time to go back to the shack in the woods I think.
 
Left groups still seem to tow the Moscow line, anti US, disband NATO, EU etc return Baltics and Poland to Russian hegemony. As stated Corbyn's curious attitude over Salisbury. So, and I am glad to see I am winding you up, I see their reasons as :-

1. Old habits die hard, and they just admire Russia for old times sake.

2. My enemies enemy is my friend - ie anti US.

3. There will be Revolution 2 in Russia and the Communists will be back.

4. Certain personalities on the left know there a few interestintg files in Vlads sandwich drawer, so don't rock the boat.

Why do you think that you are winding me up? I despise Corbyn and Putin.

Putin has more in common with Trump and Erdogan than he does western socialism.
 
Maybe nothing in common, but a lot of left-leaning, useful idiots out there to be used as a means to sew doubt and dissent in Western democracies with their enshrined right of free speech.

I don’t doubt that Putin funds anti western government organisations to sow dissent and disinformation.

However I believe that he would happily fund XRW and XLW organisations in his attempt to do that.
 

DaManBugs

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I don’t doubt that Putin funds anti western government organisations to sow dissent and disinformation.
You mean exactly like the UK, US, France, Germany and all the rest of the Capitalist countries? Well I never!

MsG
 
You mean exactly like the UK, US, France, Germany and all the rest of the Capitalist countries? Well I never!

MsG
UK France Germany - Europe are not capitalist countries
They are undeniably capitalist economies however a) there is state oversight and control** b)that funds a rather impressive wellfare state.

As such the countries are neither capitalist or socialist - no matter how much certain groups try to push the rampant capitalism the Tories want to kill us off and destroy the NHS party line.
 

DaManBugs

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UK France Germany - Europe are not capitalist countries
They are undeniably capitalist economies however a) there is state oversight and control** b)that funds a rather impressive wellfare state.

As such the countries are neither capitalist or socialist - no matter how much certain groups try to push the rampant capitalism the Tories want to kill us off and destroy the NHS party line.
What? So they're "Capitalist economies" but not "Capitalist countries"? I'm sure that (somehow) makes sense to you .....

MsG
 
What? So they're "Capitalist economies" but not "Capitalist countries"? I'm sure that (somehow) makes sense to you .....

MsG

Ok then the Im claiming the UK is socialist because it has the NHS and other institutions

Whats that having some socialist attributes doesnt make it a socialist country - well yes my dear chap thats exactly my point -
 
You mean exactly like the UK, US, France, Germany and all the rest of the Capitalist countries? Well I never!

MsG

How about you have a nice cup of tea with your mates?
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Tyk

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What? So they're "Capitalist economies" but not "Capitalist countries"? I'm sure that (somehow) makes sense to you .....

MsG

It makes a fair bit of sense to me.
The likes of the UK, France and Germany are far less capitalist in government policy than the USA for example, largely due to the way the governments operate comprehensive safety nets in health, education, welfare and social policy which really aren't capitalist in nature. It's fair to call the European democracies (especially the Western ones) at least semi socialist in outlook and taxation, there's no single official term that I can think of. Their economies however are very largely capitalist in nature.
 

DaManBugs

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It makes a fair bit of sense to me.
The likes of the UK, France and Germany are far less capitalist in government policy than the USA for example, largely due to the way the governments operate comprehensive safety nets in health, education, welfare and social policy which really aren't capitalist in nature. It's fair to call the European democracies (especially the Western ones) at least semi socialist in outlook and taxation, there's no single official term that I can think of. Their economies however are very largely capitalist in nature.
Really? I bet you believe you live in an actual "democracy" as well. Take a closer butcher's at exactly why such measures were introduced in the first place.

MsG
 
Really? I bet you believe you live in an actual "democracy" as well. Take a closer butcher's at exactly why such measures were introduced in the first place.

MsG

You're not dead or in a prison in the UK.

So doing a damn bit better than under an regime you seem to like.

Now one lump or two of polonium-210?
 

BuggerAll

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Really? I bet you believe you live in an actual "democracy" as well. Take a closer butcher's at exactly why such measures were introduced in the first place.

MsG
He has explained what he means. I’m not sure that I entirely agree with him but unless you’re particularly a-cluestic it’s pretty clear what he means.
 

Tyk

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Really? I bet you believe you live in an actual "democracy" as well. Take a closer butcher's at exactly why such measures were introduced in the first place.

MsG

Which begs the question you elect to live in the UK?

You've mentioned on many occasions you despise the UK, the British, the British way of life, laws and systems and you claim to have lived in other parts of the World and speak multiple languages at a native level. Why are you in the UK when there are so many other places that could suit you better?
 

DaManBugs

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The fact they were rather poves the point we are making
Oh sure. At least Kaiser Wilhelm was honest about why he introduced similar measures in 1871 - it was to prevent full-scale revolution.

And how come the so-called "Socialist" stuff meant for the plebs in the UK isn't a patch on the plethora of privileges and more than generous benefits enjoyed by the "better" members of UK society?

MsG
 

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