Russia at it again...

#1
A pair of Russian fighter jets violated Georgian airspace firing a missile that landed near a village northwest of the capital, Tbilisi, Georgian authorities said. There were no casualties.

Russia, whose relationship with the western-leaning country has deteriorated in recent months, denied the incident late Monday, insisting its planes had not crossed into Georgian territory.

A statement from the Georgian Interior Ministry said the missile was fired as "SU-24 frontline bombers" flew over the country near the towns of Kazbegi and Gori, before launching "air-surface precision-guided missiles" at the village of Tsitelubani.

"Our radars show that these jets flew from Russia and then flew back in the same direction that they had come from ..." Georgian Interior Minister Vano Merabishvili told Reuters.

"I assess this fact as an act of aggression carried out by planes flown from the territory of another state," he added.

Shota Utiashvili, the head of the Georgian interior ministry's public relations department, earlier told Reuters that the Russian jets had dropped a 700-kilogram (1,543-lb) bomb.
Those scallie Russians, though benefit of the doubt, maybe the missles accidentally 'fell off'? Maybe not...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html
 
#2
see all this russian being friendly with us, was a cover up while they rebuilt their country, just you wait, they will start taking old USSR stats under their control, the cold war never ended, it just ook a tea break, and silly us fell for it and started the cut backs, the russians had it all planned, KGB in office? what did you expect
 
#3
As if the Georgian military hasn't conducted any sorts of cross-border mischief of it's own either right? We generally hear only one side out of that region rather than a complete picture. A border conflict has been simmering since the schism of the CCCP and I'm fairly sure neither beligerant is innocent.
 
#4
frog_face said:
A pair of Russian fighter jets violated Georgian airspace firing a missile that landed near a village northwest of the capital, Tbilisi, Georgian authorities said. There were no casualties.

Russia, whose relationship with the western-leaning country has deteriorated in recent months, denied the incident late Monday, insisting its planes had not crossed into Georgian territory.

A statement from the Georgian Interior Ministry said the missile was fired as "SU-24 frontline bombers" flew over the country near the towns of Kazbegi and Gori, before launching "air-surface precision-guided missiles" at the village of Tsitelubani.

"Our radars show that these jets flew from Russia and then flew back in the same direction that they had come from ..." Georgian Interior Minister Vano Merabishvili told Reuters.

"I assess this fact as an act of aggression carried out by planes flown from the territory of another state," he added.

Shota Utiashvili, the head of the Georgian interior ministry's public relations department, earlier told Reuters that the Russian jets had dropped a 700-kilogram (1,543-lb) bomb.
Those scallie Russians, though benefit of the doubt, maybe the missles accidentally 'fell off'? Maybe not...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html
Read it carefully. What exactly was dropped or launched? A missile or a bomb?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6934354.stm

Russia has committed an "act of aggression" against Georgia by firing a guided missile at its territory, officials in Tbilisi say.

They say the missile landed outside the village of Tsitelubani on Monday, some 60km (37 miles) north-west of the capital Tbilisi, but did not explode.


Thousands of bombs and missiles were used during 2 wars in Chehcya. So their remains could be placed anywhere in Georgia very easily.
 
#5
frog_face said:
Those scallie Russians, though benefit of the doubt, maybe the missles accidentally 'fell off'? Maybe not...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html
Stranger items have been accidentally dropped from Russian aircraft. The pilot is perhaps one of the strangest.

Wasn't there a case during the cold war of a Soviet pilot who was parted from his aircraft due to a malfunctioning ejector seat? The plane allegedly flew on auto pilot without pilot or canopy until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the North Sea.
 
#6
Ancient_Mariner said:
frog_face said:
Those scallie Russians, though benefit of the doubt, maybe the missles accidentally 'fell off'? Maybe not...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html
Stranger items have been accidentally dropped from Russian aircraft. The pilot is perhaps one of the strangest.

Wasn't there a case during the cold war of a Soviet pilot who was parted from his aircraft due to a malfunctioning ejector seat? The plane allegedly flew on auto pilot without pilot or canopy until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the North Sea.
I heard something similar. Should imagine the shock of being ejected involuntary caused a brown trousers moment.
 

oldbaldy

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#8
Bert_Preast said:
Sounds more like a drop tank than a missile to me. 60k's over the border just means the pilot was having a Kournikova moment.
Perhaps he's like the 11 million Brits who can't read a map.
 
#10
Here we go again, Please Mr can I have my bomb back Red.

Dont worry I have got a plan just incase Russia do decide to start the Cold war again. I have got a number of pieces of Berlin Wall I took my self in 1989 just after the wall went down. There are bound to be 1000's of squaddies out there who also have souvenir pieces, If we can start collecting it all together now and rebuild the wall and keep those pesky Ruskies back.

All Berlin wall will be checked so NO dodgy pieces with the 'A genuine piece of berlin Wall for 20DM' in a presentation box will be accepted as we know it was off of someones toilet wall. :roll:
 

the_boy_syrup

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#11
frog_face said:
Ancient_Mariner said:
frog_face said:
Those scallie Russians, though benefit of the doubt, maybe the missles accidentally 'fell off'? Maybe not...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html
Stranger items have been accidentally dropped from Russian aircraft. The pilot is perhaps one of the strangest.

Wasn't there a case during the cold war of a Soviet pilot who was parted from his aircraft due to a malfunctioning ejector seat? The plane allegedly flew on auto pilot without pilot or canopy until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the North Sea.
I heard something similar. Should imagine the shock of being ejected involuntary caused a brown trousers moment.
As bizzare as it sounds I think it happend quite often
I seem to remember a Harrier test pilot getting killed in a partial ejection
Also if IIRC I think a techie got killed when the seat he was stood on ejected in the hanger
 
#13
the_boy_syrup said:
frog_face said:
Ancient_Mariner said:
frog_face said:
Those scallie Russians, though benefit of the doubt, maybe the missles accidentally 'fell off'? Maybe not...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html
Stranger items have been accidentally dropped from Russian aircraft. The pilot is perhaps one of the strangest.

Wasn't there a case during the cold war of a Soviet pilot who was parted from his aircraft due to a malfunctioning ejector seat? The plane allegedly flew on auto pilot without pilot or canopy until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the North Sea.

I heard something similar. Should imagine the shock of being ejected involuntary caused a brown trousers moment.
As bizzare as it sounds I think it happend quite often
I seem to remember a Harrier test pilot getting killed in a partial ejection
Also if IIRC I think a techie got killed when the seat he was stood on ejected in the hanger
Isnt there a video of a partial ejection form a US Crusader(?), then lands back on the carrier with co pilot hanging out the top?
 
#14
This story demonstrates the difference between BBC and other main-stream mass-media

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6935406.stm

Georgia condemns Russian 'raid'
Note that a word 'raid' is used with quote marks. So BBC inform you that the 'raid' is not well established fact but only an allegation

By contrast

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/07/russia.georgia/index.html

Georgia: Russia bombed village
Btw, today BBC-Russian radio asked the listeners about their opinions. I rang (telephone number of BBC-Russian in Moscow 220-23-23) and said that it is quite unclear has the 'bombing' ever took place. And I recalled the confirmed bombing of Pakistani village by the Americans. 17 were killed including women and children. I added that American reaction to so called 'bombing' of Georgia is like

a thief cry 'catch thief'.

After it the host (Konstantin Eggert) interrupted me and switched me off. It's freedon of speech.
 
#16
The_Goon said:
It's not just us who find your views somewhat skewed then? :D
Skewed? It depends on point of view. One sees 6 and another sees 9 looking at the same figure.

As for mr.Eggert (radio host on BBC Russian) then likely he fears that his masters would not be happy if 'wrong' opinion would be aired from BBC.

Indeed in the context of American bombing of Pakistani village, the incident looks rather as an anecdote.
 
#17
KGB_resident said:
As for mr.Eggert (radio host on BBC Russian) then likely he fears that his masters would not be happy if 'wrong' opinion would be aired from BBC.
Yes, he might fall out of a window, or die of radiation poisoning. Damn you, BBC!
 
#18
Rumpelstiltskin said:
KGB_resident said:
As for mr.Eggert (radio host on BBC Russian) then likely he fears that his masters would not be happy if 'wrong' opinion would be aired from BBC.
Yes, he might fall out of a window, or die of radiation poisoning. Damn you, BBC!
I think being jabbed in the arrse with a poison umbrella is also another favourite way of 'accidental death'... or Aunt Bessies radioactive scones.
 
#19
Rumpelstiltskin said:
KGB_resident said:
As for mr.Eggert (radio host on BBC Russian) then likely he fears that his masters would not be happy if 'wrong' opinion would be aired from BBC.
Yes, he might fall out of a window, or die of radiation poisoning. Damn you, BBC!
... or lose his well paid job.

As Phil Donahue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Donahue

In 2002, Phil Donahue returned to television to host a show called Donahue on MSNBC. Its debut ratings were strong, but its audience evaporated over the following months. In late August 2002, it got one of the lowest possible Nielsen ratings (0.1), less than MSNBC's average for the day of 0.2. On February 25, 2003, MSNBC cancelled the show, citing low viewership. Despite the reasons given by MSNBC, AllYourTV.com reported it had received a copy of an internal NBC memo that mentioned that Donahue had to be fired because he would be a "difficult public face for NBC in a time of war"
 

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