Running Jackets: Is it worth buying one?

#21
Ron Hill do some fantastic running back packs and are probably well worth a look at!

As for running in the cold, I just go for a long sleeved top (with a T-shirt on top if it is really cold), long leggings and a pair of gloves.
 

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#23
I have a cheap High Viz running jacket I got from JJB. In heavy rain it won't keep me dry, but it does stop light rain from getting in. The High Viz is key at this time of year, as some drivers struggle to see you even when lit up like a christmas tree.

The Jacket though, is only part of the layer system. I always wear long or short running tights as well as a running top of the same fabric to wick away the sweat, which limits the chances of getting cold. A decent running T is also good for on top of this, but if its really cold, a micrfleece under the jacket helps.

A hat and gloves are a must though, it's too uncomfortable to run at this time of year without them. may I also suggest in paying for some half decent socks, as this can prevent blisters and hotspots and helps with the comfort.

I have also ran in different shorts to work out which are best for me to stop the chaffing on the thighs. But this is only an issue when you start running the longer distances.
 
#24
Just try running faster if you get cold.

I tend to wear shorts and a long sleeve helly when it's cold. If it gets really cold maybe a hat/glove, although the hat is just there to stop my massive lugs freezing off.
 
#25
I just wear a Ronhill long sleeve top. Hugs the body, proves to be rather warm and although not flourescent, the light blue colour does stand out in the dark. But then it all depends on how much you like the cold: I find the colder I am the faster my time.
 
#26
60% of body heat is lost through the head in a maritime survival scenario. Not sure how much goes through the bonce whilst running but when you think about the heat signature distribution through a TI sight, it must be quite a bit.

I wear a wool hat and a breathable training top (rugby style) over the normal fair weather gear. Top bought from Lovell Rugby

Also I use vase on the nipples - for some reason my nips like to pop their heads out like a car-based dog and see what's going on!!
 

terroratthepicnic

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#27
60% of body heat is lost through the head in a maritime survival scenario. Not sure how much goes through the bonce whilst running but when you think about the heat signature distribution through a TI sight, it must be quite a bit.

I wear a wool hat and a breathable training top (rugby style) over the normal fair weather gear. Top bought from Lovell Rugby

Also I use vase on the nipples - for some reason my nips like to pop their heads out like a car-based dog and see what's going on!!
I think 60% of body heat is lost through the head is a bit wronge. I suspect it's more like 60% of body heat lost, is through the head. If someone lost 60% of their body heat, they would be hyperthermic rather quickly.
 
#28
Whatever you do don't go to a running shop they like to rape your wallet! I prefer a hat and gloves to a jacket and run in a merino top, keeps you warm when wet. I don't need a reflective strip as I run on t'moors, essential I would think if your on the roads. I put a bit of weight in a 40l exped mountain pro along with a downjacket and a few other bit and bobs if I'm covering any real distance. Nice rucksack, light on the shoulders.
 
#29
I got a high viz waterproof for the longer slower runs, its an uber thin pvc type, really lightweight. I wouldnt go without it on the dark nights and even though it isnt breatheable its better than getting piss wet through from rain. It didnt spend much money on it though, Mayber £15 in the Go Outdoors sale.
 
#30
oh, right.
Hmmm, maybe i'll give it a miss then.
It was the wind and sleet I was worrying about really, that is - is it counter productive to allow you arms and hands to get cold while running? I do a good 10 minute warm up before I run, but maybe that's irrelevant? I would hate to get an injury or illness due to the elements
Get yourself some gloves, you wont get cold injuries from running (I hope) but it's nice to be comfortable, £5 from ebay if you're lucky. It also helps to have those compression trousers or shorts to keep little Shandy from getting bloody cold when running through the snow.
 
#32
Wow - I go to work for the day and all this great advice is waiting for me when I'm finished!
Thanks to all - some good advice to consider. I'll dig out the hat and gloves, and I am road-running (albeit on pavements round my hometown), so I will give the High-vis jacket some serious consideration - I looked at Sports Direct and I can get a cheapo one for about £13.
re 'little Shandy' - I have noticed that effect already - he ends up almost countersunk sometimes!
Perhaps some sort of furry posing pouch arrangement is in order...
 
#33
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For longer slower runs in the winter I throw on a windproof or waterproof. If you are out running for a reasonable amount of time a good waterproof is worthwhile having.

In terms of a sac for carrying kit, check out OMM gear. Have run hundreds of miles wearing mine in all conditions and not a single issue. I know they do a 35l one, although I use a 15l.
 
#34
If you are feeling lucky... Win a GORE RUNNING WEAR® Air GT AS Jacket - Competitions - Runner's World

For longer slower runs in the winter I throw on a windproof or waterproof. If you are out running for a reasonable amount of time a good waterproof is worthwhile having.

In terms of a sac for carrying kit, check out OMM gear. Have run hundreds of miles wearing mine in all conditions and not a single issue. I know they do a 35l one, although I use a 15l.
You'll never win anything in that competition!!
 

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#35
Shandy - seems you are sorted...this is from the Runners World website ( courtesy of Miss Rita Chevrolet) for general info:

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How To Choose Winter Kit
The secrets of staying warm and dry on the run
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Posted: 2 November 2009
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Keeping warm and running strong through the winter is a case of doing – and wearing – the right thing at the right time. And it's not just the cold you'll need to contend with – winter running also means facing wind, rain and darker evenings. These head-to-toe tips will help you head out prepared and look after yourself when the temperature drops.

Weather Watch
The weather outside might be frightful, but remember - once you start running your core temperature will rise, and stay high. A good rule of thumb to avoid overheating is to kit yourself out as if it were 10ºC warmer.

Wind affects your body's ability to control its temperature by sweating, so wrap up warm on windy days. A buff will shield your face and keep you breathing easy, while a generous slathering of lip salve or Vaseline will stop lips getting chapped or sore.

Running in the rain can feel colder than running in crisp winter weather - water conducts heat more quickly than air, so the heat you generate quickly disappears. A light, breathable rain jacket will keep you dry (while still wicking sweat away); wearing a peaked baseball cap will also help keep rain off your face.

Layer, Layer, Layer
Clever layering will banish sweat and hold in heat, keeping you warm and dry all winter .

Base layer This layer should wick moisture off your skin to stop you getting chilly. The best base layers are lightweight and fit snugly against your skin. Plump for synthetic wicking materials rather than absorbent fabrics like cotton.

Middle layer The middle layer insulates the body even more by creating additional air-space, so you'll only need one if it's very cold. Although this second layer might be a bit heavier than the first, it should still be a loose-fitting technical top that'll wick moisture away.

Outer layer This protective shell will protect you from the cold, wind, rain or snow while still allowing sweat to evaporate. It's best to pick a jacket that sits loosely over the other layer(s) to keep your outfit's wicking and insulating efficient. It'll need efficient ventilation - a long front zipper, for example, will allow you to control your temperature. Gilets with zip-off sleeves are another flexible winter stalwart.

Three layers should be ample for even the coldest British winter – more than that, and it'll be too bulky and uncomfortable.

Your legs don't lose as much heat as your upper body, so thinner nylon tights and capris are fine for cool autumn days. But when winter starts to bite it's time to wrap up warm - full-length tights with a brushed lining are a sensible choice.

Before A Race
Race starts can involve lots of waiting around - stripping down to your club vest and shorts prematurely can be a recipe for disaster.

Instead, think about donning a binbag or a cheap tracksuit to keep you warm until the gun goes. That way, you can drop off your kit bag in good time before the start and you won't mind dumping the extra layers once you've set off.

Head To Toe
Your body will always prioritise keeping your brain warm, so if you get cold, heat will be drawn from other parts of your body (such as your hands and feet). To reduce the amount of body heat that escapes through your head, try wearing a hat or headband (or both). You can always slip them off if you heat up later in your run.

If your hands are still cold, mittens are perfect - the air pocket around your fingers and the shared warmth of your fingers will keep you warmer than gloves. However, light, breathable gloves are great for mild days. Either way, look for a pair made from wickable fabric.

Technical running socks will wick moisture away from your feet to stop them getting damp and chilly. Look for socks with a high wool content - air pockets within the wool will trap air and keep your feet toasty warm. It's not necessary to layer socks; one pair is plenty.

Bright Lights
As the nights draw in, it's worth investing in some effective reflective kit. Although fluorescent colours are perfect for getting noticed during the day, at night, white kit shows up just as well in motorists' headlights.

Most high-tech winter kit includes reflective panels but you could also customise existing kit with adhesive high-vis strips. Stick them onto the busiest parts of your body (such as your lower legs and arms) to get noticed.

Hometime
As soon as you stop running, your core body temperature will plummet. You won't be producing as much heat, and the heat you do generate will be lost to the cold air.

Wearing wet kit is no fun – and it could even lead to hypothermia - so change into warm, cosy clothes as soon as you can after a run, and put a towel or hat over wet hair. Having a hot drink or soup will also help boost your core temperature.

I heat up quick and stay hot...tried running with a vest under a lightweight running jacket and that seems to work for me....having cold hands whilst running makes me miserable so a cheapo pair of those thinsulate gloves do the trick...and when I get too hot I shove them inside the waistband of my trusty Ronhills

( and after 11 years of sterling service I just bought a new pair of Tracksters at Go Outdoors for £9.99 so can finally give my old pair the well deserved heave ho )
 

Goatman

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#36
I think 60% of body heat is lost through the head is a bit wronge. I suspect it's more like 60% of body heat lost, is through the head. If someone lost 60% of their body heat, they would be hyperthermic rather quickly.
This figure has been bandied about since the 1950s....I remember my old man coming back from Mountain leader training at Capel Curig in the 1960s and telling everyone this fact.

Turns out that the old and bold's mantra 'Ho Yus...60% of body heat lost through your head - wear a hat to keep your feet warm laddie ! ' is a bit misleading ....IIRC it was apparentely based on US Army studies in the Arctic...which, given that nobody was walking around in a running vest and shorts anyway, may have had something to do with the results they obtained.

LINKY for the naturally unbelieving... Scientists debunk myth that most heat is lost through head | Science | The Guardian
 
#37
Indeed - normally you lose an amount roughly proportional to the surface area of your head. What that article does fail to point out though is that your head is never allowed to cool (otherwise your brain would stop working) - so if you're hypothermic then you're still losing heat at the same rate through your head long after most of the blood flow to your arms and legs has slowed.

Nonetheless, 10% is quite a significant amount.
 
#38
I think 60% of body heat is lost through the head is a bit wronge. I suspect it's more like 60% of body heat lost, is through the head. If someone lost 60% of their body heat, they would be hyperthermic rather quickly.
I am so sorry - I was in a hurry. Yes, 60% of lost body heat, is indeed lost through the head. Quite so.


edited to add:

Or reading Goaty's post, possibly not. You do proportionately (or do I mean relatively?) lose a lot of heat from the head though because it is generally unshielded. so a wooly or felt hat is a great asset.

In summer months a little lightweight cloth cap/baseball cap is great, especially as you can dunk it in water and keep cool whilst protecting your eyes from the sun via the peak.

ultimately it is what you feel comfortable in that matters. Like all sporting set ups, don't change more than one item per experience. Psychology is a funny old ******!
 

Goatman

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#39
Took my New Balance running jacket out for a gentle scamper today ...4 degrees C and wind-chill of about minus 2 ! Damn seagulls going backwards......I was wearing a wicking Tee shirt underneath and gloves....after about a mile I had to unzip the jkt to cool down a bit....it does what it says on the label.....


Men's New Balance NBx Windblocker Jacket | shopnewbalance.co.uk

(mind you, the speed I run at it's a wonder I don't get clamped....)
 

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