RUC ECM

#1
The RUC had their own ECM suite, I can’t remember all of it, but I know the had Clock (white sifter).

In my tours of NI I never came across the RUC using it and the general opinion seemed to be they were as versed to using it, preferring to rely on Military patrols to protect them from the electronic threat.


Does anyone remember working with the RUC while they carried their own ECM?

I know in the early days they had ECM on RUC stations replicating military ECM (but again named differently). This would sometimes cause EOD teams problems when they had to go ECM active. Before ECM could be automatically synchronised a bleep had to Request ‘lordling’ Before going active, this required everyone within the active zone to switch off their ECM, the RUC were often reluctant to do this at their stations, this was a problem to the EOD team as an ECM Lilliput would always win the power battle, it just meant the RUC station and anyone else who hadn’t switched their ECM off wasn’t protected.
 
#2
The RUC had their own ECM suite, I can’t remember all of it, but I know the had Clock (white sifter).

In my tours of NI I never came across the RUC using it and the general opinion seemed to be they were as versed to using it, preferring to rely on Military patrols to protect them from the electronic threat.


Does anyone remember working with the RUC while they carried their own ECM?

I know in the early days they had ECM on RUC stations replicating military ECM (but again named differently). This would sometimes cause EOD teams problems when they had to go ECM active. Before ECM could be automatically synchronised a bleep had to Request ‘lordling’ Before going active, this required everyone within the active zone to switch off their ECM, the RUC were often reluctant to do this at their stations, this was a problem to the EOD team as an ECM Lilliput would always win the power battle, it just meant the RUC station and anyone else who hadn’t switched their ECM off wasn’t protected.
I only ever saw Clock wired into cars, I don't ever remember seeing it on a cops back. We used to work with a small specialist section that sometimes mounted their own rural foot patrols if they wanted to go somewhere specific and there was no military patrol going. I don't even remember them carrying it when they did that.

I know of one incident where the RUC not turning off their base ECM wasn't due to reluctance, it was due to no-one in the station knowing how to turn it off!
 

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#3
I didn't do any RUC work in my last tour and in my first one they certainly didn't carry any on their persons, this was the early days of white sifter and joker
 
#4
Violet Joker was a detector for the fuzz buster threat, but what was joker used for? Did it precede chimps?
 

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#5
I think we used joker with fastchimp
 
#6
Violet Joker was a detector for the fuzz buster threat, but what was joker used for? Did it precede chimps?
Joker and fast chimp over lapped. Can't say I had a lot of confidence in it. It looked as if came as a kit taped to the front of an electronics magazine, over 6 monthly instalments, the first issue for only 99p.
 
#7
That’s going back quite a bit.
 
#8
Joker and fast chimp over lapped. Can't say I had a lot of confidence in it. It looked as if came as a kit taped to the front of an electronics magazine, over 6 monthly instalments, the first issue for only 99p.
Sounds like they covered the RC bands, superseded by red, green and orange chimps, then antler, then blue. Don’t know what the current equipment is.
 

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#9
I remember there being red and green jokers, I only carried chimp once, that was once too many!
 
#11
Only ever saw RUC with an ECM pack once and that was outside the Royal Courts for a hoofing large cordon because a couple of star players were up for sentencing. No idea what it was but it was a fairly small backpack.

Other than that, when we carried out joint 'confidence' (hah!) patrols, the Peelers always relied on us to provide ECM. Kinda made sense as they were supposed to be doing the Customer Facing thing and a weebling warbling 'thing' would have been a touch intrusive.

. . . and why have I got Red Stripe in my head?
 
#12
I remember there being red and green jokers, I only carried chimp once, that was once too many!
No one liked carrying ECM, antler was heavy, cumbersome, ate batteries and had long fragile whips. Even VJ was a pain in the arse, it made you unbalanced and has many false alarms (traffic lights), it also meant you were on point.
 
#13
Sounds like they covered the RC bands, superseded by red, green and orange chimps, then antler, then blue. Don’t know what the current equipment is.
Thinking about it I'm sure you're correct. Mhz, rings a bell.
They looked extremely shoddy and the ear piece was one of those from an NHS hearing aid of the 70's, I'm sure.
 
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#15
ISTR meeting up with RUC rural foot patrols on occasion who carried (what looked like) our WS. Also similar kit in the boot of their armoured sierras. We only carried WS at that time.
 
#16
We never had any of our own ECM ,that was in Tyrone and West Belfast, when working with military they carried Violet Joker, sifter and antler, in the front sanger at Woodbourne there was antler and sifter both looked after by the military.
 
#17
Only ever saw RUC with an ECM pack once and that was outside the Royal Courts for a hoofing large cordon because a couple of star players were up for sentencing. No idea what it was but it was a fairly small backpack.

Other than that, when we carried out joint 'confidence' (hah!) patrols, the Peelers always relied on us to provide ECM. Kinda made sense as they were supposed to be doing the Customer Facing thing and a weebling warbling 'thing' would have been a touch intrusive.

. . . and why have I got Red Stripe in my head?
Istr that Red Stripe was the one that looked a bit like a 349. One per multiple,usually carried by the M203 man. Of course being the smallest man in the brick,I had to swap my WS for Antler. I don't remember the RUC having ECM,not on the border anyway.
The stuff we used in Iraq was quite different,oddly,I can't remember the names of any of it.
 
#18
Istr that Red Stripe was the one that looked a bit like a 349. One per multiple,usually carried by the M203 man. Of course being the smallest man in the brick,I had to swap my WS for Antler. I don't remember the RUC having ECM,not on the border anyway.
The stuff we used in Iraq was quite different,oddly,I can't remember the names of any of it.
That's the badger! One of the first patrol ECMs I seem to remember.
 
#19
Istr that Red Stripe was the one that looked a bit like a 349. One per multiple,usually carried by the M203 man. Of course being the smallest man in the brick,I had to swap my WS for Antler. I don't remember the RUC having ECM,not on the border anyway.
The stuff we used in Iraq was quite different,oddly,I can't remember the names of any of it.
You’ll have had ECM blue, red and brown for patrol ECM, the same for vehicle fits plus your two microwaves on the front.
 
#20
You’ll have had ECM blue, red and brown for patrol ECM, the same for vehicle fits plus your two microwaves on the front.
On Telic,I was a TA remf,in the rear with the gear. We did ECM training,but I usually let others mess with it.
Nearly 30 years since my last NI tour,but I remember the place much better than the other crapholes I went to.
 
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