Rubbish from US Chinook Thread

#2
Its 2011, and we cant seem to armour our helicopters well enough.

I wont say RIP as they are dead, I will say it is very sad. No need for this to happen. Must of been a good weapon to bring down the coptor.

Sounds like the survivors had a battle with the Taliban after. All the best NATO, keep up the good work. Its been a long war.. please lets finnish this soon.
 
#6
Originally Posted by protectyourself
Some kind of forcefield... or anti misslie defences... um... thicker armour. Or maybe scan the area for enemy before you fly over in a coffin with wings.


What the hell are you on about, do you know anything?

1. Forcefield....this is real life not star wars.

2. Anti missile defences..again not effective against RPG's.

3. Thicker armour...what like a foot of tank armour which would make the wokka a penguin..ie unable to fly.

4. They do scan the area for enemy..however this is war not paintball on a saturday with your mates.

5. Coffin with wings? This is a help not a plane.

I cant believe the posts of this idiot... too much time reading comics and getting fat fingers on a PS3. Shame that these bellends are allowed onto here to post drivel about subjects they know nothing about.

Rant over.

@ protectyourself...is yours mums forcefield up as I'm coming over to test it's defences.
 
#7
Respect is of course due, though if helicopters with 40 men are being blown out of the sky, surely we have to ask WTF is going on. If the Taliban now have new weapons which can easily pull copters outof the sky.

To give them credit, a nice kill for the Teletubbies. They hold us down with IED's on the ground, now have a new weapon to take out the helicopters. All this talk is going to give me terrible dreams tonight.

Not fighting in the war obviously I should be extra respectful, I apologise if not. Though I do believe that something has badly gone wrong somewhere.

Maybe the copter was flying too low.
 
#8
Respect is of course due, though if helicopters with 40 men are being blown out of the sky, surely we have to ask WTF is going on. If the Taliban now have new weapons which can easily pull copters outof the sky.

To give them credit, a nice kill for the Teletubbies. They hold us down with IED's on the ground, now have a new weapon to take out the helicopters. All this talk is going to give me terrible dreams tonight.

Not fighting in the war obviously I should be extra respectful, I apologise if not. Though I do believe that something has badly gone wrong somewhere.
Less is often more in the armouring of helis. I doubt it's a new weapon system, more likely a "lucky" shot with an RPG, I won't speculate any more than that though. RIP guys.
 
#10
Sorry all, I will keep sense of humour to the NAFFI from now on. Though I did prefer call of duty 2 jimmy.

Maybe th trouble with helicoptors is the sound, if we could make them quieter maybe the Taliban wouldnt hear them coming..

Quieter, electric helicoptors may be the way to go in the future. The technology is there to repel RPG's at a good weight, we just dont use it.

I still maintain that if a coptor cannot take an RPG round its useless and should not be flying. Though granted these things are rare, and preferential to stepping on an IED.

The Taliban dont have copters and seem to be doing ok.

Plus what makes is strange is if it was night time how did the ban see the copter coming, maybe they have developed infa red or nightsight now. They are advancing quickly, maybe Iran is being friendly to them.
 
#11
Plus what makes is strange is if it was night time how did the ban see the copter coming, maybe they have developed infa red or nightsight now. They are advancing quickly, maybe Iran is being friendly to them.
"the ban"?? Really? And given that one can buy (admittedly rather more crude than current issue) night vision equipment in any decent optics shop, or indeed over the internet for relatively little, your second point is rather stupid. That said, I wouldn't be particularly surprised if a financial link between Iran and the Taliban was discovered.
 
#12
Sorry all, I will keep sense of humour to the NAFFI from now on. Though I did prefer call of duty 2 jimmy.

Maybe th trouble with helicoptors is the sound, if we could make them quieter maybe the Taliban wouldnt hear them coming..

Quieter, electric helicoptors may be the way to go in the future. The technology is there to repel RPG's at a good weight, we just dont use it.

I still maintain that if a coptor cannot take an RPG round its useless and should not be flying. Though granted these things are rare, and preferential to stepping on an IED.

The Taliban dont have copters and seem to be doing ok.

Plus what makes is strange is if it was night time how did the ban see the copter coming, maybe they have developed infa red or nightsight now. They are advancing quickly, maybe Iran is being friendly to them.
WAH shield up....
I can't believe what I am reading. You are just winding us up and pretending to be a cretin aren't you?
Electric heavy lift helos?
Taliban developing infra red? Why would they need to when they can buy stuff on eBay?
 
#14
Well its been proven/suggested in the mainstream media that Iran have been supplying portable anti aircraft systems to the Tali so this might explain this instance, might not do.

Electric Coptors will be more mainstream within 10 years I am sure, especially for the Military.

Morale of the story maybe is dont hover for long periods of time over hostile territory.

God bless the dead RIP allies, your sacrifices are noted and appreciated.

Sorry about the infa red remark, yes, it was dark humour.
 
#18
I am certainly not wrong on that

The Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s was greatly hindered by portable Stinger missile systems provided by the US and the far less effective Blowpipe weapons provided by the UK. Nato forces have intercepted so-called Manpads, or man-portable air defence systems, illegally smuggled from Iran and there have been recorded incidents when they have been used.

Classified military reports released by WikiLeaks last year showed that the US military covered up a reported surface-to-air missile strike that downed a Chinook helicopter over Helmand, killing seven soldiers.
From Guardian.co.uk

I still think stopping over a bloody village is stupid, surely stop nearby somewhere, not over the top of the Taliban. I am not a general though, and am not trained in the arts of helicopter attacks, so will keep quiet on my military strategy theories.
 
#19
Well its been proven/suggested in the mainstream media that Iran have been supplying portable anti aircraft systems to the Tali so this might explain this instance, might not do.

Electric Coptors will be more mainstream within 10 years I am sure, especially for the Military.

Morale of the story maybe is dont hover for long periods of time over hostile territory.

God bless the dead RIP allies, your sacrifices are noted and appreciated.

Sorry about the infa red remark, yes, it was dark humour.
As people have said you don't need a manpad to bring down a heli, for gods sake the Vietcong were doing it with hand grenades in the trees during the 70's, however chinooks have been taking a lot of ground fire over the last couple of years, so really it's not surprising that ones been downed, and the reason could be a multitude of things.

Electric heavy lift heli's in the next ten years I'd be surprised, first you have to develop a small and reliable electric motor capable of producing the required power and also a small a light enough power supply, and also a supply that will last.

The weight of electric motors and batteries will not be equal to regular power plants for along time yet
 
#20
I am certainly not wrong on that



From Guardian.co.uk

I still think stopping over a bloody village is stupid, surely stop nearby somewhere, not over the top of the Taliban.
It doesnt matter what you think. You werent there on the day and dont know the circumstances around the incident therefore your opinions dont matter. Now stop talking shite and crayon somewhere else.
 

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