RTMC- What if you fail MATTS?

[stab_spr]

Just a quick question to all you guys who have been through RTMC (Chilwell), what happens if you are unable to pass a MATT whilst there... My fitness is not as good as needs to be and even though am working hard at it ( left work to devote time etc) Iam due for mobilisation in jan with an infantryt reg?

 

[devilish]

I'd be very surprised if you failed MATTs. Secondly, your new unit can take you on strength "at risk" if you fail your BFA/T but if you fail the 8 mile CFT, then I believe your fooked.

 

[call_me_jack]

RTMC will be the least of your worries if you can't pass a PFT/CFT and you are joining a regular Infatry Battalion as a stab. Just keep at it with your fitness and go easy on the christmas pudding.

 

[BusyDoingNothing]

Receiving unit can accept you as a training risk - once you have been accepted into service after G1-4, the Army keeps you. If you fail the PFT you first of all should be ashamed of yourself and secondly you should be given the opportunity to re-take with 7 days. If you fail that you're on remedial PT for 3 months and if you can't pass it at the end of that your discharged from both the regulars and the TA. These rules now apply to the TA as well - bout bloody time.

And it's not yet an 8 mile CFT at Chilwell. Still 4, goes to 6 in April, and 8 in April 2008. Disgraceful in my humble opinion, we should all be doing 8 milers now.

 

[The_GreyMan]

Good God just grit your teeth and run fcuking faster, you would in real situation, just pretend the Russians are coming like we used to do all those years ago...

 

[merlin162]

Guys were failing both the PFT and CFT in August and were taken on as at Risk, most have since passed and are now in the sandpit.....

 

[The_GreyMan]

Just goes to show you what a load of b******s it all really is....

 

[fusilier50]

i have returned from the sandpit in the last few days and have to say we had to carry a number of guys throughout the tour who just werent fit enough.

result was the guys who could cut it had to work that much harder. we also had to send quite a few home who just couldnt take the strain out there but it took time and effort to do so. in the mean time it was their muckers who had to take up the slack.

physical tests are there for a reason and if you fail them you shouldnt be put in a situation in which fitness is a necessity.

 

[The_GreyMan]

Agreed, hear hear, I concur

 

[RFUK]

Good to know all this is coming in. When I mobbed for Afghanistan a couple of years ago, I walked the BFT (too p*ssed even to jog) in 15 mins or so. I was still sent to my infantry unit!

Just stick with the fitness and you should be fine.

 

[Cuddles]

It is now 4th Dec 07. If you cannot achieve a passing standard for PFT/CFT between now and a January mob date than I suggest that you are seriously incapable of successfully mobilizing, especially with an infantry battalion.

Put the hours in!

 

[Two_Cookers]

Cuddles - I seem to have missed a year. Has there been a shift in the time space thingy or have I really mobilised, been on ops, returned home to tea and medals and now back at work? If so, I'm booking myself into Selley Park later today....or is that yesterday....or tomorrow...

TC

 

[bobath]

Your recieving unit may take you if you haven't passed the CFT but prepare to be beasted to fook during you build up training.

Put the miles under your boots now, it'll save you a lot of time and pain later. Trust me.

 

[Cuddles]

Cuddles - I seem to have missed a year. Has there been a shift in the time space thingy or have I really mobilised, been on ops, returned home to tea and medals and now back at work? If so, I'm booking myself into Selley Park later today....or is that yesterday....or tomorrow...

TC

Well done TC, you spotted my deliberate mistake there. Erm...take the rest of this thread off to prepare your kit for the 100 or so extras that are mysteriously heading your way!

 

[Two_Cookers]

Erm Cuddles..sorry to disappoint but I'll be the one dishing out the extras as I get to sit behind the desk whilst others stand. Carry on please.

 

[stefdaunt36]

Wouldn't put money on being mobilised if you fail the CFT, we had a guy RTU'D from RTMC for just passing a CFT but deemed still not fit enough. He was due to be attached to the marines on op Herrick

 

[gimpy_lover]

Wrong.

Many people have been demobbed due to failing MATTs, especially MATT 1 - shooting, and MATT 2 - fitness.

Units are entitled to refuse people not up to the standard. The 4 mile TA CFT is easy, but bear in mind you are at RTMC for about 2 weeks, then a week at OPTAG, then out to your receiving unit who may hit you with an 8 or 10 miler upon arrival. If you're not fit you'll just give them the impression of being a W*nker. Some units will send people home for Demob who are not up the job.

I think RTMC now hold failures until they pass (at the units request) - lots of beastings for the fat boys then!

Best bet is to sort your fitness out or grit your teeth for an hour. Remember pain is only weakness leaving the body.

 

[4th_of_foot]

Reading this type of thing really P*sses me off.

I'm 55 and I can easily pass the fitness but they won't have me 'cause I'm too old.

 

[theparamancan]

Just a quick question to all you guys who have been through RTMC (Chilwell), what happens if you are unable to pass a MATT whilst there... My fitness is not as good as needs to be and even though am working hard at it ( left work to devote time etc) Iam due for mobilisation in jan with an infantryt reg?

They take you to a clearing in the forest behind the gym and put a bullet in your head. Or at least they should.

Had a load of guys on tour with me that could't run the length of themselves. Young lads included. Loads failed fitness at chilwell and still got sent. The minimum standard of fitness for the army, particularly the TA is a piece of piss!

Appriciate i'm not being very helpful here but come on. Just do a bit of work. The average man off the street could pass a 4 miler with the right mental attitude.

 

[green_spot]

HMMMM.... Interesting that you have finished work PRIOR to mob service?????? the whole reason it is still Vol Mob is so you still get employment protection. Anyway thats your own mind.

On the subject of the CFT ...... if you are on the cusp ofr failing a 4 MILE CFT and are due to be posted to a regular Inf unit...... in a hot climate where the latter part ofyou tour will be in hottest part of the year....... and conturary to popular opinion slap bang in in the middle of a war of unprecidented terorist threat....... then my boy you are FUBAR'd

Hope this helps?

P.S .... I work at chilwell and yes you will get binned if you are unfit for role!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!