RTCs to be commanded by regular COs?

#1
Is this all a load of crap, or are TA Comd appointments gradually being subsumed by The Borg?

msr
 
#2
When from, ours is working quite happily as is........if it aint broke dont fix it!
 
#5
Can I be duty mong (as usual)?

With the exception of the reduced number of command slots, what would be the problem with Reg COs in RTCs?
 
#6
StabTiffy2B said:
Can I be duty mong (as usual)?

With the exception of the reduced number of command slots, what would be the problem with Reg COs in RTCs?
That is the problem.

msr
 
#7
Interesting idea, if true, not least because up to about 2 years ago RTCs were not a 'Command' and had CIs not COs. In my (limited) experience they were always seen as rather second string jobs for TA Lt Cols other than those who could not aspire to command their TA Regiments as they had a Regular CO only policy.

Illustratrative of a change in emphasis from the 'old' TA Regimental structure that seems to underpin some of the unhappier TA postings on here. Can't see it attracting any thrusters though.
 
#8
msr said:
Is this all a load of crap, or are TA Comd appointments gradually being subsumed by The Borg?

msr
Not heard this one. However, the dynamics of centralised reruit selection - all now passing through the relevant ADSC be they regular or TA - and the ADSC's relationship with RTCs is an interesting one. In this region there is a good deal of crossover and I can see how the Regular organisation might now take a keener interest in RTCs, but as for commanding them probably not an act of war just yet. BUT there is a need for at least 1 regular post at RTCs (and that's not FTRS/NRPS), probably at Trg Maj /2IC level.
 
#9
If there are no TA Comd Appointments, what's in it for the TA Officer exactly? God knows it has been hard enough recruiting TA Officers over the last decade. Values and Standards come into play here: what exactly have we sold these youngsters and what chance do we have to make good on those sales promises?

Lose the Senior TA Officers and you lose the Capts / Majs who are at that decision point - mid 30's with conflicts from family and work. If there is no TA Career on offer and they are beyond the rank range for mobilisation then why would they not just leave? There may well be some sad people out there who live for admin but the number of leavers would tend to suggest there aren't many.

Lose the Capts and you lose the Subbies because a) there is no-one around to make them feel special and b) they get all the work the Capts would have done and that is just not going to keep a subbie motivated.


I am led to believe that the Review of the Reserves team had rather a shock when they saw the TA Offr manning stats.

msr
 
#10
msr said:
StabTiffy2B said:
Can I be duty mong (as usual)?

With the exception of the reduced number of command slots, what would be the problem with Reg COs in RTCs?
That is the problem.

msr
Is that it? Hardly the end of the world is it?

We've just suffered a reduced number of slots for trades and ranks. It happens, deal with it.

Or would I be better off moaning on an internet forum?
 
#11
StabTiffy2B said:
msr said:
StabTiffy2B said:
Can I be duty mong (as usual)?

With the exception of the reduced number of command slots, what would be the problem with Reg COs in RTCs?
That is the problem.

msr
Is that it? Hardly the end of the world is it?

We've just suffered a reduced number of slots for trades and ranks. It happens, deal with it.

Or would I be better off moaning on an internet forum?
Nah. You haven't got it in you, have you?
 
#12
if true, with the review happening, is this not a hint that RTC's are going to get a very large increase in their remit i.e centralised training centers for the production of IR's.
 
#13
Only when they increase the budget considerably. Which is unlikely to happen. So unless we work for scooby snacks and a pat on the head from the brigadier before the helicopter takes off, I wouldn't have thought that would happen any time soon.
 
#14
OnTheBus said:
Only when they increase the budget considerably. Which is unlikely to happen.
Or they strip it from one place and re-allocate it to another...

msr
 

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#15
msr said:
Lose the Senior TA Officers and you lose the Capts / Majs who are at that decision point - mid 30's with conflicts from family and work. If there is no TA Career on offer and they are beyond the rank range for mobilisation then why would they not just leave? There may well be some sad people out there who live for admin but the number of leavers would tend to suggest there aren't many.
msr,

I ask this as neutral minded JNCO who has neither the ability, inclination nor years left to progress much further, so am genuinely in the dark. Do TA officers really expect a 'TA Career'? The feeling I'm getting from your post is that people won't bother staying on to make Major because there's little chance of becoming a Lt Col. Isn't serving in the TA as a Lt/Capt/Maj enough?

You stated that no-one wants to do X amount of hours of paperwork (I certainly wouldn't), but doesn't the admin factor merely increase with rank? Surely this would counteract any desire for promotion? I mean honestly, what exactly does the CO of an RTC do apart from become buried in paperwork? It's one big admin job isn't it? Would the prospect of signing off scores of recruit training logs tantalise those "the Capts / Majs who are at that decision point - mid 30's with conflicts from family and work" of whom you speak?

I'm genuinely asking here because, devastatingly enough, I think StabTiffy2B has a salient point. Shouldn't our perspectives be "Is this good for the RTC?" rather than "Is this good for my promotion prosects?".
 
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#16
FFBox said:
When from, ours is working quite happily as is........if it aint broke dont fix it!

I know your new boss..your f.u.c.k.e.d. mate :wink:

and to think of all the fun you had....all to go soon....LOL
 
#17
It's inevitable.

RTCs are the future and will be enshrined in the Review of the Reserves. Furthermore the number of regular command slots is shrinking and they will take priority. RTCs are underfunded, under resourced and yet have pulled off the most amazing feats principally due to the commitment and enthusiasm of the TA staff. This is, akin to a lot of issues within the TA, a fact ignored by the regular system (they don't understand it) and as soon as something starts working well, they nab it - CRRs being a case in point. No-one wanted the job and they were predominantly filled by FTRS. Suddenly, the regulars have realised that they are actually quite important and funny old thing, CRG dictates that they should all be regular postings forthwith - more Lt Col slots for the regular Army.

RTCs are seen as underpinning the future supply of trained IRs for Ops. Regular COs = increased visibility = increased resource = improved establishments = regular centric effort. Bust.
 
#18
Hey Mr Tracey,

shouldn't you go get yourself a job somewhere in Wilton? You are talking an awful lot of sense, clearly more than one man needs, you could spread some around down there!!
 
#19
infromthestart said:
Hey Mr Tracey,

shouldn't you go get yourself a job somewhere in Wilton? You are talking an awful lot of sense, clearly more than one man needs, you could spread some around down there!!
Now there's a thought.....but are they ready for common sense, pragmatism, rejoicing in the shadow of the territorial ethos, and working with someone who couldn't give a stuff about their career as long as they make a difference and enjoy the ride?

I don't think so.

FAB
 
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