Royal Yeomanry - spreading the love

#1
My minions report that, pending detailed revelations about anything from anyone concerning the "territorial component of the Army Reserve", A (Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry) Squadron of the the Royal Yeomanry has been authorised to form a new Troop, to be based alongside the HCR at Combermere Barracks, WINDSOR.

The Sqn has the right people in the right place, available at the right time (for reasons about which all ARRSErs are well aware) to create a yeomanry cavalry Tp at WINDSOR - and to give it the right (ie, minimally STAB) ethos from the start. Waiting too long would mean the moment would pass and the people with experience whom the Sqn would like to recruit will become bogged in the Form 203 ballache, and therefore lost. It's open to those without military experience and to transferees, of course.

The RY is highly likely to be one of the "light cavalry" yeomanry regiments. The CBRN bit of the "CBRN recce" role is being edged away, and is very likely to go entirely once the re-roling is complete. The RY's first R-WMIK vehicles will arrive in September/October of this year.

Anyone interested in joining should PM me; I will get a pencil-skirted minion to respond. It's a good time to join, although the PRI is still selling the same old cardie and socks:
 

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#2
You bunch of utter bollocks!!

Well done by the way - always good to see some expansion in this firm - sorry, territorial component of the army reserve.
 
#3
So the HCR are effectively getting a TA Tp? Is this the first bit of TA/regular pairing? Perhaps this means the HCR will be part of the adaptive force.
 
#5
My minions report that, pending detailed revelations about anything from anyone concerning the "territorial component of the Army Reserve", A (Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry) Squadron of the the Royal Yeomanry has been authorised to form a new Troop, to be based alongside the HCR at Combermere Barracks, WINDSOR.

The Sqn has the right people in the right place, available at the right time (for reasons about which all ARRSErs are well aware) to create a yeomanry cavalry Tp at WINDSOR - and to give it the right (ie, minimally STAB) ethos from the start. Waiting too long would mean the moment would pass and the people with experience whom the Sqn would like to recruit will become bogged in the Form 203 ballache, and therefore lost. It's open to those without military experience and to transferees, of course.

The RY is highly likely to be one of the "light cavalry" yeomanry regiments. The CBRN bit of the "CBRN recce" role is being edged away, and is very likely to go entirely once the re-roling is complete. The RY's first R-WMIK vehicles will arrive in September/October of this year.

Anyone interested in joining should PM me; I will get a pencil-skirted minion to respond. It's a good time to join, although the PRI is still selling the same old cardie and socks:
If we can get a second squadron formed here in northern Ireland we can go back to our old badge of the north irish horse which would be nice. Ben told as well that in sept / oct we will be getting our new R-WMIK to but we think that's bollocks really. When the army says it giving the TA some new toys best add a few extra months / Years on to the time frame they give you


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#6
The Royal Yeomanry is getting R-WMIK in Sep/Oct, fo shizzle. So I guess your lot (Queen's Own Yeomanry) will be getting theirs at the same time, too. Maybe it might be wise to drop the cynicism shields, just this once.

I'd be happy to sort out another NIH Sqn for you, provided that I'd be allowed to procure an SIH Sqn too. You'd be surprised at the level of pent-up demand.
 
#7
Regarding integration with HCR, and HCR being adaptive: nope. This is just a deft, swift swoop. Read nothing into it, other than that people get fed up with conflicting directives and missed opportunities.
 
#9
Yes, although probably involving a bit more showing off front of hordes of continental European girls. Windsor gets more tourists than Swindon, for some reason.
 
#10
Yes, although probably involving a bit more showing off front of hordes of continental European girls. Windsor gets more tourists than Swindon, for some reason.
They moisten at the sight of tatooed, obese Troopers, elderly WOs and Worzel Gummidge like Subalterns then do they?

Or is that just the QOMY element of RMLY?:)
 
#11
The Royal Yeomanry is getting R-WMIK in Sep/Oct, fo shizzle. So I guess your lot (Queen's Own Yeomanry) will be getting theirs at the same time, too. Maybe it might be wise to drop the cynicism shields, just this once.
Having been around since the old days of open top LR, I think R-WMIK will be v good for the Yeomanry. Easier to use, fix and train on than CVRT, it means that actual on platform training can happen much more often - and that is what the boys actually want to do. The platform type isn't a big issue in my mind.
 
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Are you getting all the guns as well, or will they just be fitted for guns?

RMLY have been using stripped down LR for long time now, as quiller says, the platform is versatile and if you get the R-WMIK it will be a major and useful step forward.

But without the guns it will just be a faster and more ally looking stripped down LR.
 
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Are you getting all the guns as well, or will they just be fitted for guns?

RMLY have been using stripped down LR for long time now, as quiller says, the platform is versatile and if you get the R-WMIK it will be a major and useful step forward.

But without the guns it will just be a faster and more ally looking stripped down LR.
The guns (HMG) are coming, too. So they will be faster and more ally looking stripped-down LR, able to punch neat holes in things. This means that guys will need to be competent on that weapon system in order to command them, which is nice. Example pic (but with wrong kind of gun) below.
 

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They moisten at the sight of tatooed, obese Troopers, elderly WOs and Worzel Gummidge like Subalterns then do they?

Or is that just the QOMY element of RMLY?:)
Hold on, are you alleging that the QOMY element of RMLY moisten at the sight of the STABs you mention?
 
#16
The guns (HMG) are coming, too. So they will be faster and more ally looking stripped-down LR, able to punch neat holes in things. This means that guys will need to be competent on that weapon system in order to command them, which is nice. Example pic (but with wrong kind of gun) below.
Two comments, if I may.

Firstly, in my view/experience GPMG would be preferable to HMG, given that this is a surrogate platform. This is so for the following reasons. The ammo is much more expensive, so you will get much more 7.62 be it blank or live for training than you would .50. The stresses that HMG puts on the WMIK frame and vehicle itself leads to a much higher rate of wear and tear on the vehicles so you will get through more of them more quickly and I suspect that replacements will not be readily available in this environment of austerity. Finally the template for 7.62 is significantly smaller than for .50, therefore you will be able to conduct more flexible live fire training and on many more training areas (including ones closer to home) and in greater concentration than you would with .50. Also the training and maintenance burden (on the weapons themselves) I strongly suspect is greater for HMG than for GPMG. In summary, I strongly urge you not to get seduced by the allyness factor and go for the option that will best enable you to train most efficiently. You are probably shafting yourselves down the line if you insist on HMG. (Happy to discuss further, off-line. I have some experience of this issue).

My second point refers to the use of surrogate platforms. While WMIK (of whatever variety) is probably the right platform for (at least the reserve portion of) the light cavalry, we need to be mindful of its limitations. Firstly, it's cross country mobility is not remotely representative of any tracked vehicle and it's lack of ability to shoot on the move (at all)* and lack of power turret means that while collective mounted manoeuvre training can be conducted, the pace and scale (in terms of range) of battle will always be much slower and smaller. If people treat it like a tank/CVR(T) they will hurt themselves and damage the equipment. Also the is a big jump from Land Rover to tracks, not just in terms of crew competence, but also on the G4 side in terms of maint and log, so all this needs to be factored in when we look at ramping up the adaptable forces into something for warfighting.

*Although seldom done outside BATUS, CVR(T) has been permitted to fire on the move in training since 2009.
 
#17
Two comments, if I may.

Firstly, in my view/experience GPMG would be preferable to HMG, given that this is a surrogate platform. This is so for the following reasons. The ammo is much more expensive, so you will get much more 7.62 be it blank or live for training than you would .50. The stresses that HMG puts on the WMIK frame and vehicle itself leads to a much higher rate of wear and tear on the vehicles so you will get through more of them more quickly and I suspect that replacements will not be readily available in this environment of austerity. Finally the template for 7.62 is significantly smaller than for .50, therefore you will be able to conduct more flexible live fire training and on many more training areas (including ones closer to home) and in greater concentration than you would with .50. Also the training and maintenance burden (on the weapons themselves) I strongly suspect is greater for HMG than for GPMG. In summary, I strongly urge you not to get seduced by the allyness factor and go for the option that will best enable you to train most efficiently. You are probably shafting yourselves down the line if you insist on HMG. (Happy to discuss further, off-line. I have some experience of this issue).

My second point refers to the use of surrogate platforms. While WMIK (of whatever variety) is probably the right platform for (at least the reserve portion of) the light cavalry, we need to be mindful of its limitations. Firstly, it's cross country mobility is not remotely representative of any tracked vehicle and it's lack of ability to shoot on the move (at all)* and lack of power turret means that while collective mounted manoeuvre training can be conducted, the pace and scale (in terms of range) of battle will always be much slower and smaller. If people treat it like a tank/CVR(T) they will hurt themselves and damage the equipment. Also the is a big jump from Land Rover to tracks, not just in terms of crew competence, but also on the G4 side in terms of maint and log, so all this needs to be factored in when we look at ramping up the adaptable forces into something for warfighting.

*Although seldom done outside BATUS, CVR(T) has been permitted to fire on the move in training since 2009.
on the first point ref HMG - correct, gpmg is far less of a training and log burden. However, I believe only a limited scale are being issued in order to qualify a pool of gunners. And of course, to look warry in recruiting videos...

On the second point , wmik is not a surrogate AFV . It is what it is - a light wheeled recce platform to be used in support of light inf bdes.
 
#18
Indeed. Up until replaced by jackal wmik was being used extensively on ops. I can only really see RWMIK being a surrogate for MWMIK on mobilisation. All the cvrt will be in withams by the time the next mob comes around.
 
#19
Would you* rather go to war with 7.62 or .50?

Pretty obvious choice really.



* obviously not ME...
 
#20
Having been a CY and DLOY, my views on the QOMY, element of the RMLY, and their strange ways is best left unprinted!
With the exception of the RSO and LE the QOMY Officers were an (in)breed all of their own. The landless gentry.

Prior to the merger I remember being in an O Group for an upcoming weekend where the OC B Sqn (Stafford) was trying decide on the best way to contact his troop commanders and SSM should plans alter during the week. After much unnecessary discussion he finally decided a phone call to the officers homes or workplace was better than a telegram to their Clubs, Fag or runner. He then turned to the SSM.

"How about you Sergeant Major?", asked the OC

"Well just give me a call too if you need to discuss it", says the SSM

"You have a telephone at home Sergeant Major?", replies the OC with genuine surprise

"Ar Sir" came the exaggerated accent, "And wem getting hot n cold water and an indoor bog next week an'all"
 

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