Royal Signals JCLM / SCLM

#1
There were various threads relating to this in the past but that was relating to the "old" dettys and Staffys courses.

Has anyone recently been on one of the above course, its 5 years since my dettys and now its time to do my SCLM like a grown up.
 
#2
PM Ancient. He did his JCLM last year, which I think was the new course. Can't help SCLM though.
 
#3
I did my JCLM last year and has moved away from the “old school” detties course and more geared around current Ops.

So expect to pass a CFT off the bat on day one (so get there early and pre-packed!) and lots of classroom based stuff (values and standards, orders process etc).

Obviously there were the two FTX’s – one “in camp” for a 24 hours warm up and orders giving/receiving, harbour drills etc. The 36 hour sleep deprivation ex is a killer – this is when the SCLM joined us as our Troop Sgts…..LOTS of running around for everyone, up and down hills so get in shape now. The Platoon attack at the end was immense (expect more running about if you get the short straw as Platoon Sgt) smash your CASAMM drills and general adminy points because that’s where you’ll earn your money. Fortunately you’ll get a “warm down” period after the FTX in the form of the tab home…

Nothing in the way of comms really except everyone lugging around the Bowman manpacks and LOTS of spares and ancils.

Proper good fun though, very challenging but very rewarding. I’m looking forward to my SCLM already (if and when I ever pick up).
 
#8
and the difference is? - no thats a serious question - I know the CLM for some regular courses had to all intent and purpose become the same course (the TA only lacking BITS/MOI which everyone had done anyway)
 
#9
And the duty rumour is that the Signals Lance Jack is going to be a course, to align it with the regulars. (not just a given, or Regimental-run cadre - an actual residential course).
 
#11
Yeah we were told something similar on our JCLM, except possibly a weeks residential. Obviously better for most if it's over two weekends but from personal experience, I think it should be run and graded by an external party rather than in-house.
 
#12
polar said:
and the difference is? - no thats a serious question - I know the CLM for some regular courses had to all intent and purpose become the same course (the TA only lacking BITS/MOI which everyone had done anyway)
Well, as you said, we do a DIT course, and also we do PD19 on it. Also we get twice as many PLDs and we spend 5 days in the field as well as a 5 day 'shakedown' on camp before we even deploy onto the exercise. Trust me, if you think 36 hours of sleep dep is unpleasant, try getting your command appt on day 5 when everyone is zombiefied. Thats not a whinge, thats the comparison you asked for. I loved my CLM, it does sift out the fatties and whingers that only came off the board because they either sucked off the boss or cried because they didnt get recommended and got their SJAR changed.
 
#14
polar69 said:
What is PD19 ?

Cav is it PAYD if your'e on a course ?
SOinCs Policy Directive 19 is instructor selection. All NCOs going through CLM need to do it now. If you want to go to a phase 1, phase 2 or Sandhurst post, and its an important tick in the box to get past SSgt rank, you need to be recommended off the PD19 board.
 
#16
Sounds like the course is exactly the same as the old course when I didi mine years ago?

also.... the difference beween the reg and TA course isn't that huge..... Most of the content is the same, it's just the amount of time spent on each subject differs.

as most have said make sure pft's and cfts are easy and you'll be fine, I loved my staffys
 
#17
I did JCLM at Blandford in spring this year . The CFT was a 6 miler byt we were told that from then on it would be an 8 . When they say undulating ground , they meant it . It's mostly on cart tracks , and finishes with a hard grind up pond bottom hill . No excuses .... a five second fail is a fail and you go home that night . There's also a one and a half mile uphill run , followed immediately by a log run back down , and then the assault course . And a bit of orienteering .There is a bit of classroom stuff , some of which you can pretty much sleep through , and some model maaking . Three out of the cection got up early and made the models . Much better than eight blundering around in the dark . The 24 hr ex is just a night out . No light discipline etc , just a bit of a laugh . The 3 nighter is a killer . I didn't lie down for the whole exercise . Yu spend a lot of time on gun positions , so take an i-pod discreetly or you will die of boredom . You need to know your way around the TAMs , Pay particular attention to the recce and clearance patrol section . Ignore the rest . When you do your notes , don't write it all out , i just got in a mess, just wing the scheme of manoevre bit . Get seriously fit . You need the stamina . The DS are superb . They know what they're doing and are truly first rate . PM for any further info .
 

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