Royal Signals in Infantry CIS Platoon

#1
Heard today that a meeting at LWC Warminster in the last week has confirmed that Royal Signals soldiers will be intergrating into infantry CIS platroons. The orbatwill consist of 1 x ssgt to act as BSM and the rest as det 2i/cand RLDs.
 
#2
We already have intergrated BSM's and back up BSM's so why a Royal signals one, and what and how many other Royal signals soldiers will be coming in. Is this just for ops or all the time.
 

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#4
Already been thrashed out on the Inf forum here:
"Scaley Sigs Plns" Thread

With the final word going to Joker after 4 pages of willy-waving;

Joker said:
Right, I have not read the whole thread too closely as it was getting a little tedious with Sigs Vs Inf. So, if this has been said before I apologise.

The concept is that the RSigs guys come into the Comms Platoons to provide specialist support for example Bowman System Managers, Level 2 maintainers, techies and the like. It is not to be down at Company level. That will still be done by Infantry Signallers.

It has nothing to do with Infantry being too thick to operate the kit. Case in point.... hmm two rather tasty operational environments where the kit is in use and being used to good effect. It is to do partly with manning (as I understand it RS still man Corps Level Squadrons?) when the Infantry are struggling to man the huge manpower demand for the new kit and Corps ownership of a Comms system.

On the G1 aspect, it is being thrashed out what the career path of these individuals will be.
 
#5
Will these posts come from the Royal Corps or will they be at E2 from the ICS Stream who already manage BOWTAG, BOWMAN SST and various other ICS posts around the Army?

Berlin
 
#8
As I understand this, HQ SOinC(A) has been asked by HQ D Inf to look at the possibility of manning Signal Platoons in Inf Bns to release Inf soldiers to do what they do best - close with and kill the enemy. The Corps is not currently scaled nor organised in a way to do this correctly at the moment and it will require some restructuring to achieve. Stand by.
 

ugly

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#9
Nothing new really as in the 1980's Scaleys were attached to man the rear link!
 
#10
Signals used to be on Rear Links with Inf, Tankies and even Arty. RSigs are still used in Arty regiments.

As mentioned, The Infantry can be realeased to do what they do best,a nd the Signals can do what they do.

Bearing in mind as newer technologies come in there is going to be a surplus of tradesmen in the Corps.
 
#11
to add more fuel to fire on this one, we have just had a brief on the potential potential disbandment or re-role of units. if it went ahead (18 month timescale) we may be used as RL dets for inf battalions

Edited by Bow_Man
 
#12
I currently sit at a Bde Sig Sqn and the word on the street is as of yet manning has not been decided, but D Inf has bought into this concept in a big way. There are a number of concepts that are being thrashed out as to where the manning will come from.

Edited by Bow_Man
 
#13
chocolate_frog said:
Signals used to be on Rear Links with Inf, Tankies and even Arty. RSigs are still used in Arty regiments.

As mentioned, The Infantry can be realeased to do what they do best,a nd the Signals can do what they do.

Bearing in mind as newer technologies come in there is going to be a surplus of tradesmen in the Corps.
I disagree there is not enough manpower in the close support Signal Sqns as it is, and that is with the advent of Bowman. Arty still posess a RLD Sgt as to REME, and when NI was in full swing Inf Bns used to get one too. Inf CIS plts are very good at what they do and will not be released back to general infanteering. The manning of these posts has yet to be decided upon and there are lots of numbers being brandished around.
 
#14
260+ soldier from the corp (live bodies, not 'liability')

Edited by Bow_Man
 
#15
wild_man said:
to add more fuel to fire on this one, we have just had a brief on the potential disbandment or re-role of units. if it went ahead (18 month timescale) we may be used as RL dets for inf battalions
Ladies and Gents,

Talk of disbandment/re-roling of specific units is not particularly helpful at a time when actually HQ SOinC(A) has yet had a chance to look at nor discuss options with HQ LF and any units concerned. There is still, I suspect, much more water to go under the bridge on this issue before it becomes clear and distinct.

Whilst appreciating that this is a "rumour service" could I ask you not to speculate on the disbandment or re-roling of any particular unit at this time as inevitably it will only set the hares running and cause disquiet and misinformation at all levels.
 

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