Royal Navy vist West Belfast school

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  1. Matelots Linky

    A sign of changing times. What's more enlightening is the muted response from the shinners and the defence of the school's principal of the decision. A welcome move toward the direction of a semblance of normality? Keeping in mind recent reports of a rise in the number of applicants to the British Army from the Irish Republic, what's the odds of a similar move by the army or crabs into recruitment from parts of Northern Ireland traditionally adverse to taking the shilling? I'm not suggesting the time is right for the Para's to rock up on a recruitment drive at a high school on the Falls road, but the likes of R IRISH perhaps?
     
  2. :twisted: wouldnt recommend the paras go down the bogside/creggan area of londonderry either!
     
  3. Coming from Northern Ireland, and as a Catholic. At first,i thought i would, but, never did experience any animosity towards myself after my descision to join the Navy.

    It wasn't a secret at all. My mates knew, and, somewhat unfortunately, my brothers' mates knew.And he moved in some iffy circles. But, still i had no trouble. Mind you, there was the one time i was in a club, and word got back to me, that some thought i was an informer.... 8O

    Anyway, i didn't make an issue of my joining up, but was happy to discuss it with people when i returned home.Oddly enough, some didn't associate it with the British armed forces :? I even visited my old school whilst home on leave. I had great pleasure in telling the career teacher that i'd just returned from the Bahamas, and was loving it! She, and the school always thought i'd fail at it. Also looking down on my descision as "an easy option", as opposed to going to university like everyone else.

    I'm obviously biased on the subject, but, well done to the head teacher for letting this go ahead. I had a fecking laugh for 12 years, so why shouldn't other kids, be given the same oportunity?

    Jesus, it's only the Royal Navy, it's not like it's a real job,is it...?!! :wink:

    Gash
     
  4. Foggy B, & Gash -
    To the substantial Irish body on the mainland, the RN, MN, and RNR were never viewed in the same way that the British Army was, during the two WW's. The country would have starved without them, wherever the sailors who manned the ships came from. It might have been (was) kept quiet in Dev's little fiefdom (no insult intended), but Irishmen from both sides of the line certainly played their part in the defeat of the Kaiser and the Bavarian Fullscrew at sea.

    Liverpool, especially, was chocker with Irish sailors willing to take a chance, and Derry was one of the major home ports for the Escorts.

    I seem to remember a little controversy a few years ago regarding a memorial to an RN sailor awarded the VC in WW2 for sinking or severely damaging a Jap cruiser in the FE - diver operating out of a miniature submarine, if I remember rightly, he was from W Belfast, (L Falls?), and his name wa MacGennis. He was a Catholic.


    I's 30 years since I was there, but I have to say, I'm utterley amazed if this tale is true (that schools in w Belfast are doing this. how times change)

    My own son has just contacted the RN Careers Office in the last few weeks. By my own uncertain reckoning (I'm not a geneologist) that makes him the 6th generation (I think) to take to the foaming main in HM's Ships. We're all of S Irish descent ourselves.
     
  5. I'm a Southern Bogtrotter and have been in the RN for over 11 years. I've had very little grief (most was from plastic paddies in New York during Fleet Week but that's another story....) and it's not like I keep it a secret. However, I don't go around advertising what exactly it is my specialisation do...

    And before Guns, PTP, Boney_M or anyone else pipes up, it is not 'fcuk all'.

    There are plenty of Southern Irish in the RN. Not enough IMO however but hopefully that will change in due course. I like to think we bring a bit of 'class' to the mob :D
     
  6. Guns

    Guns LE Moderator Book Reviewer
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    Sit in a back office drink wets and refusing to do 'Gash ditching" due "backroll" shredding?????
     
  7. Nosh,
    I always got the impression from a couple of old school mates (both of whom who went down the jolly jack tar route) I occasionally met up with when on leave, their's was a slightly different experience to my own with regards personal security. It sounds familiar the notion of being less of an issue than being a squaddie here. May well be something to do with the maritime tradition, especially in Belfast. I never thought I'd see the day the Royal Navy would be participating in careers advice in West Belfast. Good on your son by the way and good luck to him. I was the first "pongo" in my family. My maternal grandfather was so disappointed. I was the first in several generations of their family not to go to sea, either Royal or merchant. As for the V.C. winner. While a pity he wasn't recognised sooner, there now stands a very lovely and fitting memorial to him at the front of Belfast city hall. Linky to hero
     
  8. Guns

    Guns LE Moderator Book Reviewer
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    Even when I was based shore side in Belfast we did plenty of schools work. Even did some out reach programme with disadvantaged "yoof" from both sides of the divided. Mind you we were in civvies.
     
  9. Yeah, Foggy, I was a bit of a military oddity myself - a lot of my own forebears were either building ships, or sailing the things. I ended up in the Army (brother went RN though).

    Worked as a fisherman with the inshore fleet for a while, when I got out. Can't help it, it's in the genes. Two Winter's worth of storms cured me though.
     
  10. Fcuking hell, lads, nine posts about The Mob and not one mention of ipods... can I come back out of my hole now?
     
  11. On my Irish fathers side of the family (Co Cavan) working back from my son 2 Sqn RAF Regt, me RAF Regt
    brother 5 heavy RA, Father Grenader Guards, Uncle RE, Grandfather x 3 brothers Royal Ulster Rifles, Great grandfather Royal Irish Fusileras.
     
  12. I was under the impression there was always been a high recruitment level from the Irish, from both sides of the divide and in all services.

    The RUC was similar.

    It was only when the ira scum and their friends started burning serving Catholics out of their own home did the recruitment drop.

    "Come home to a real fire, join the RUC" anyone else recognise that slogan?
     
  13. I know of people who were navy and had no major hassle when coming back home........Army was a different matter.

    The Army were patrolling the streets and the main focus of hate and aggression . The Navy and lesser extent Raf were not seen as front line aggressors.

    It is a good start though .........imagine one of Mcguiness or Adams family joining up as a Royal hhehehehehehh Xmas get togethers would be fun and on the other side would they attend a full British military funeral???
     
  14. Ok so long as they don't mention the RM as part of the RN...........
     
  15. Southern Irish, Catholic, fifteen years service and enjoyed every minute of it. :D