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Royal Navy to share new carriers with France while Quangos..

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Driven by spiralling budgets, the two navies began talks last week aimed at sharing their aircraft carriers.

The government is expected to give the go-ahead for the Royal Navy’s two new aircraft carriers this week, part of a joint Anglo-French project to build a total of three.

The French, who currently have only one carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, are questioning whether they can afford a replacement and are keen to explore closer co-operation with Britain instead.
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“We all have budget constraints and we are looking to see how we can rationalise and reinforce our resources and work together,” commented a French diplomat who is close to the talks.

Both countries are facing a £2 billion shortfall in their defence budgets and the cost of the new carriers at just under £2 billion each is proving a major burden.

The “bilateral carrier group interoperability initiative”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3953901.ece

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Hidden quango empire costs £100bn a year

The cost of Britain’s “hidden state” of unelected public bodies has soared to more than £100 billion a year, new research has revealed.

Critics say the rise of quangos under the Labour government has produced wasteful and confusing duplication of roles.

The research is in a report by the TaxPayers’ Alliance. It says these largely unseen and unaccountable bodies spend £101 billion a year, the equivalent of £1,662 for each person in Britain.
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3953922.ece

Jobs for the Boys but not for Jack.
 
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The obvious thing to do, would be to rent them out to P Diddy, or similar, for a few days a year. Give it a few years then buy a 3rd, maybe.

Well, that or INCREASE THE FECKING MILITARY SPENDING!!!
 
#3
Share with the French ??????? They would be the last people I would trust to share anything with the French , first sign of trouble they would be running up the white flag.
 
#4
There could be additional cost for heavier duty gearing to cope with the frequent "All Full Astern" commands.

Bunting tossers would have an easier life though. No more "England expects that every man will do his duty", just a simple white flag will do the trick.
 
#6
Can't see the problem- They'd have it Mondays to Wednesdays and we'd have it Thursdays through Saturdays, alternating Sundays, only we won't tell the Argies 'cos they'd only go and invade on a Tuesday the crafty swines.
 
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And don't they use a completely different system for launching and landing their aeroplanes? IIRC the French use CATOBAR which means we'd probably have to bin the F-35B order and find a replacement plane that could take arresting gear since there's no way in hell they'd ever consider buying an American warplane. Whole idea sound bloody ridiculous.
 

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#8
How about organising a mass genoside of quango staff. The money freed up every year could buy 50 carriers. Although without an air group that wouldn't realy be much use...
 
#11
SHARE! with the FRENCH!, last time we shared a war with them and look what happened, they spewed it and we were left playing in the sand at Dunkirk.
 

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LE
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#12
It should make it easier for the RN to surrender next time they are off the coast off Iran
Things will go smoother if half the crew are experts
Alternativly we could form a Euro Navy
Only downside is Germany will over run the French,Belgique and Dutch quarters and we'll have to spend the rest of the time getting them back for them
 
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I remember a few years back the fitness first in the centre of town being shut because it was rented out for the local council, asked one of the guys who work there there the following week what it was all about, apparently they rented the gym, had a buffet, and used the hot tubs and saunas all paid for by nottingham city council tax payers at the cost of a few grand.


Under the guise of finding facilities to train young athletes, just so twenty odd government non-job types could have a jolly.

It's not just government qaungos, the local governments like to burn other peoples money too.
 
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Pompeii said:
Can't see the problem- They'd have it Mondays to Wednesdays and we'd have it Thursdays through Saturdays, alternating Sundays, only we won't tell the Argies 'cos they'd only go and invade on a Tuesday the crafty swines.
Indeed, the French could sell the Argies the planes and missiles straight off deck on one day, and watch them flying back attacking us on the next...
 
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Brick said:
And don't they use a completely different system for launching and landing their aeroplanes? IIRC the French use CATOBAR which means we'd probably have to bin the F-35B order and find a replacement plane that could take arresting gear since there's no way in hell they'd ever consider buying an American warplane. Whole idea sound bloody ridiculous.
I hope that you're not suggesting that this is a cunning French plan to get us to buy the Rafale-M instead.
 
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They'll want a united French/British Chanel and shared waterway rights. I don't know what I'm talking about but when we have something and someone else fancies a bit of it they often get it.
 
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O2Thief said:
They'll want a united French/British Chanel and shared waterway rights. I don't know what I'm talking about but when we have something and someone else fancies a bit of it they often get it.
I only supported the Chunnel because someone told me it was a supergun aimed at Paris. But at least the French had the cojones to do something about the Somali pirates (link) whereas the RN was told to be cautious about arresting any because they might claim asylum under Human Rights legislation (link).
 
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So this 'sharing' will be on the lines of
1. we pay for the building and running costs,
2. the frogs will actually build the carriers and ancillary equipment - thereby giving jobs to the frogs,
3. we can have the use when they don't need it,
4 they will tell us when and who we use it against.
5. we no longer have a claim to a Royal Navy,
6. the frogs will claim the title 'ruler' of the waves,
7. cyclops and part-time browne can claim 'investment' in defence,
8. proeuro twats will celebrate 'togetherness'
9. yet another quango/tzar will be set up to monitor
10.while labour tossers are spinning this as big news, they hope we won't notice how large their expenses are or whatever s..t we're in.
Hang on chaps, that rumbling from St Paul's - is it an earthquake? a Thames sunami? No, just Nelson and Wellington spinning in their graves!
 
#19
french rifle for sale, never fired only dropped once. Carriers are going to be diesel not nuclear. French wanted nuclear and in their wisdom our lot said no we want diesel.
 
#20
french rifle for sale, never fired only dropped once. Carriers are going to be diesel not nuclear. French wanted nuclear and in their wisdom our lot said no we want diesel.
 

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