Royal Navy Medic Conscientious Objector

#1
Navy medic

Thoughts?

"Lyons, who comes from a military family and is the great-grandson of a decorated Second World War hero, told the committee: ‘I was unable to find a real, just and noble cause to go out but I still had a sense of duty to my country.

‘It was a big dilemma. Soon after, a large number of military documents were leaked by WikiLeaks."

He goes on to say - "he was further put off when he learnt he might not be able to treat everyone, regardless of who they were".
 
#4
plenty of very brave medics in WWI were conscientious objectors but still went to the Front as stretcher bearers - why couldn't this medic do the same
 
#5
plenty of very brave medics in WWI were conscientious objectors but still went to the Front as stretcher bearers - why couldn't this medic do the same
Aye to that! Husband's Grandfather was a WW1 'conchie' - he served on the Somme as a stretcher bearer and was a Methodist Lay Preacher, thus his objections. But he served none the less

However - I can't quite get my head around joining the Military (of whatever colour) and then when the possibility if feeling some 'heat' rears it's head all of a sudden the RN MA become 'morally aware' that the conflict is wrong - mostly it would seem having read Wikileaks.
 
#6
Remember we had a lad in my entry who was a born again Christian- joined the navy wanting to become a padre not knowing the proper procedures for such roles and entry- got to week 4 of training where we got taught rifle drill and he just packed it in- being a concencious objector he refused to learn how to handle a rifle. Safe to say "Father" Fry wasn't in the mob for much longer.
 

LancePrivateJones

MIA
Book Reviewer
#7
Why, oh ****ing why do these idiots join up in the first place?

HMF do warry things, it's in the pamphlets and they even tell you at the recruiting office for christs sake.

The last joker I read about pulling this stunt was a crab officer doctor who apparently didn't know that the RAF does war on occasion, didn't complain about the benefits of being an officer though did he?

I always thought that a Conscientious Objector was what you were prior to joining, not after enlistment.

I ****ing despair, I really do.........
 
#8
plenty of very brave medics in WWI were conscientious objectors but still went to the Front as stretcher bearers - why couldn't this medic do the same
And they would have been conscripted - unlike this bloke, who volunteered.

I don't believe a word of what he's claiming as his reasons for refusing to soldier (or whatever the RN equivalent of this is).
 
#9
I don't like the idea of being next to a fire and potentially burning to death. Therefore I didn't become a fireman.
 
#13
And they would have been conscripted - unlike this bloke, who volunteered.

I don't believe a word of what he's claiming as his reasons for refusing to soldier (or whatever the RN equivalent of this is).
There were loads of Conchies in WWI who were volunteers.

I note that this **** is a submariner; I take it he had no qualms about being part of a crew who's sole objective is to rain down a nuclear holocaust on a sizeable chunk of the world, so in what way does he justify holding these seemingly completely opposing views?
 
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Mark The Convict

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#14
Why, oh ****ing why do these idiots join up in the first place?
Equal myopia prevails here, and because of this, Defence Force Recruiting now make a point of asking prospective recruits' opinion about the being-ordered-to-kill bit. Plenty of applicants don't even consider it before applying, let alone form an opinion.

Incredible, but true. What do they think it boils down to? Withering glares?
 
#15
now I think the bloke is a ****.
but how effective would a submariner be in the field? its not a role traditionally linked to being able to leg it about with weight on your back.
 
#17
He looks like a shifty eyed, pie eating, flabby faced ****. Still, we shouldn't go by appearances should we?
 
#18
The hearing at Portsmouth Naval Base heard that the 24-year-old, from Plymouth, Devon, was sent for a pre-deployment course on how to use the SA80 service rifle at HMS Excellent, Portsmouth, on September 20 last year.

But when ordered to commence the course by Warrant Officer Robert Bainbridge in the presence of a military policeman, he refused and asked to be “rerolled on non-combative duties”, the hearing was told.

Did this twat not do rifle training in basic? Don't submariners do guard duties? Isn't a medic basically a non combative duty? Certainly does smack of cowardice, big style.
 
#20
Why, oh ****ing why do these idiots join up in the first place?.........
It was certainly true in my day (swings lantern etc.) that trade training was very good. You could leave after a few years with a trade and good qualifications. Plus, litle chance of seeing much action, unless you count Saturday nights in Simeon Strasse.
 

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