Royal Marines Gucci Rebrand

And a £20k FRI for GD RMs (Mne and Cpl) announced today.

Bit of a kick in the slats for all those who were made to SQ early... (unless by GD they mean not SF or BS).
I know it's not even 0830 on a Monday morning and my gray matter is still barely ticking over, but is there any chance of an English translation of your post?
 
FRI - Financial Retention Incentive

GD - General Duties

SQ - Specialist Qualification

SF - ssshhhh

BS - Band Service

The problem is that GD is both an SQ in and of itself, but can also be used to describe those Royal Marines who are not SF or Band Service. The information note is not clear. Most RMs are "encouraged" to chose an SQ prior to being selected for promotion to Cpl and above, but there is a relatively narrow path to promotion by choosing to be a GD marine past Cpl.
 
This!!

Also the fact that this government has several high profile MP’s who are very vocal veterans.
give over - it's like Nixon going to China. It's because the Tories are "the party of defence" that they can do this. You could have every backbencher in the party sitting there with a chest covered in tin, and they'd still fall into line if the PM told them the alternative was a Labour government. The forces tend to do better under Labour because:
a) they're trying to buy support from people who like the forces and flags and stuff and therefore aren't already in the Labour bag
b) they build a lot of the kit in Labour constituencies

The Tories cut the forces because they're surer about (a) and (b) is less of an issue.

If/whenever we have swingeing cuts, you can lay odds that it will be under a Tory government. Wilson east of Suez is the exception that proves the rule
 
also, i can think of about 4 high profile "veterans" (bloody awful term) in the PCP - and the government's majority is 80...
 
The forces tend to do better under Labour because:
Their previous leader was a member of Stop The War / CND.
Prioritised Moscow's response to the Skripal incident.
Supported the IRA ('our friends') and Hamas.
Advocated for leaving NATO.
 

Caecilius

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Most RMs are "encouraged" to chose an SQ prior to being selected for promotion to Cpl and above,
From speaking to the RM blokes I work with, that encouragement tends to be compulsory, and often well before LCpl. How else can the corps generate drivers and signallers?
 
Their previous leader was a member of Stop The War / CND.
Prioritised Moscow's response to the Skripal incident.
Supported the IRA ('our friends') and Hamas.
Advocated for leaving NATO.
you'll notice he wasn't in government though...

I've never voted Labour in my life, but voting for the Conservatives does tend to be a vote *despite* their record on defence rather than because of it... Seriously, we're (serving and ex) pretty much in the bag as far as CCHQ is concerned. And generally, they're right. Tory members, much like the backbench MPs, will keep the faith and take it on the chin for the greater good.
 
you'll notice he wasn't in government though...

I've never voted Labour in my life, but voting for the Conservatives does tend to be a vote *despite* their record on defence rather than because of it... Seriously, we're (serving and ex) pretty much in the bag as far as CCHQ is concerned. And generally, they're right. Tory members, much like the backbench MPs, will keep the faith and take it on the chin for the greater good.
That might well have been the case when the majority was in single figures, but not now. James cleverly Johnny Mercer, Tobias Elwood, Tom Tugendhat, Ben Wallace are fairly high level ministers.
 
From speaking to the RM blokes I work with, that encouragement tends to be compulsory, and often well before LCpl. How else can the corps generate drivers and signallers?
The dreaded Direct Specialisation Scheme.

Although if you are a smart cookie, and work out how to play the game, it can give you a leg up.
 
FRI - Financial Retention Incentive

GD - General Duties

SQ - Specialist Qualification

SF - ssshhhh

BS - Band Service

The problem is that GD is both an SQ in and of itself, but can also be used to describe those Royal Marines who are not SF or Band Service. The information note is not clear. Most RMs are "encouraged" to chose an SQ prior to being selected for promotion to Cpl and above, but there is a relatively narrow path to promotion by choosing to be a GD marine past Cpl.
So all generalist RMs are being given a 20k retention bonus at the moment?
 
So all generalist RMs are being given a 20k retention bonus at the moment?
pretty much. at the 5 year point, for a 4 year return of service, which fairly typical for a FRI.
 

Slime

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Good news everyone, we hacked the enemy mainframe!

The bad news is they're landing an armoured division on the beach and there's nothing we can do about it...
Not picking on you, but this post illustrates the complete misunderstanding of how cyber will be able to affect warfare in the future, and that the side with the best cyber capability with have massive advantages.

Lets look at your scenario.

Imagine your side had hacked the opposition, and you had quad super computers and associated databases.

You would be able to read any if their encrypted or coded message within 200 seconds (at current rates).
you would know every enemy combatant, their personal info, and thus where each of those combatants were.......so whether they were mobilising in advance.
You could know the location of any stores or ammunition.

In short, you could know of the opposition plans long before anything happened, who would be involved and where and when.

We already see opponents using cyber to demoralise NATO troops by text when on ops, even the simple act of clearing the bank balances of a whole battalions troops one week before an op would cause major issue.
This of course could be possible using a quad super computer.

As a reference, recently the US authorities wanted google and Apple to give them the keys to encryption codes so they could read encrprypted ISIS terrorist messages.
A quad super computer would be able to break that encryption and read any messages in just over three minutes once it was operational.
 
That might well have been the case when the majority was in single figures, but not now. James cleverly Johnny Mercer, Tobias Elwood, Tom Tugendhat, Ben Wallace are fairly high level ministers.
indeed, and of those 5 I'd expect Mercer to be only one to say anything... for every one that walks, there's depth of numbers to replace them now, which there wasn't last year. Seriously, power has gone on the Conservative benches from anyone who can't threaten the majority. None of those names are seriously high profile enough to cause anyone at CCHQ to lose sleep. 2 of them I actually really rate but if they resigned it's hardly Heseltine going.

Bottom line? The government, for the first time since the 2005 election (and for the Conservatives since 1987) has got the votes to do what it wants across the board, and let the rebels rebel. I think people have forgotten what that feels like after the negotiations and latterly general chaos that have been the norm since 2010.
 

Cold_Collation

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Book Reviewer
Not picking on you, but this post illustrates the complete misunderstanding of how cyber will be able to affect warfare in the future, and that the side with the best cyber capability with have massive advantages.

Lets look at your scenario.

Imagine your side had hacked the opposition, and you had quad super computers and associated databases.

You would be able to read any if their encrypted or coded message within 200 seconds (at current rates).
you would know every enemy combatant, their personal info, and thus where each of those combatants were.......so whether they were mobilising in advance.
You could know the location of any stores or ammunition.

In short, you could know of the opposition plans long before anything happened, who would be involved and where and when.

We already see opponents using cyber to demoralise NATO troops by text when on ops, even the simple act of clearing the bank balances of a whole battalions troops one week before an op would cause major issue.
This of course could be possible using a quad super computer.

As a reference, recently the US authorities wanted google and Apple to give them the keys to encryption codes so they could read encrprypted ISIS terrorist messages.
A quad super computer would be able to break that encryption and read any messages in just over three minutes once it was operational.
Go even simpler and more stark.

Back in WWII, you might have mounted round-the-clock bombing raids employing many hundreds of aircraft and endangering many thousands of lives to knock out the power stations for an industrial region.

Now, you might achieve the same by squirting a few lines of code down a fibre cable.
 

Caecilius

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
A quad super computer would be able to break that encryption and read any messages in just over three minutes once it was operational.
This doesn't seem right. Quad core supercomputers are already in existence and have been since the mid 2000s; they still can't get past many of the more robust forms of encryption. There's a lot more to it than just throwing computing power at a problem.

Unless you're talking about quantum computing, which does make previous encryption forms obsolete (on current understanding).
 

Slime

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This doesn't seem right. Quad core supercomputers are already in existence and have been since the mid 2000s; they still can't get past many of the more robust forms of encryption. There's a lot more to it than just throwing computing power at a problem.

Unless you're talking about quantum computing, which does make previous encryption forms obsolete (on current understanding).
Have a quick look online.
I didn't mention ‘core’, but have a look around. The current fastest published breaking of encryption is 200 seconds.
 

Caecilius

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Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
The current fastest published breaking of encryption is 200 seconds.
"Encryption" on its own is meaningless. What encryption? Also, how was the data captured and what's the mechanism to obtain more data? It's not just a computing power problem.

Also, I have looked online and quad super computer doesn't seem to be coming up. It's also not a term I've heard before. It's either niche, or you're confusing it with quantum computing.
 

Slime

LE
"Encryption" on its own is meaningless. What encryption? Also, how was the data captured and what's the mechanism to obtain more data? It's not just a computing power problem.

Also, I have looked online and quad super computer doesn't seem to be coming up. It's also not a term I've heard before. It's either niche, or you're confusing it with quantum computing.
No, I’m not confusing terms.
 

Slime

LE
Go even simpler and more stark.

Back in WWII, you might have mounted round-the-clock bombing raids employing many hundreds of aircraft and endangering many thousands of lives to knock out the power stations for an industrial region.

Now, you might achieve the same by squirting a few lines of code down a fibre cable.
When I think of China‘s aim to eventually have data on every human alive on the planet I can think of some areas of the U.K. where they would think ‘someone else had got there first’ and wrecked the town!
 

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