Royal Marines and the new Japanese Amphibious Force

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LE
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First Bootie to call out 'Oi! Tojo!' to attract attention ...
 
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I imagine the sale of kimonos will increase significantly!
 

ugly

LE
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Does the Japanese Marine service have a penchant for naked roll mat fighting or little black cocktail dresses? Can they be spotted at the annual Army/Navy all in sumo comp wearing cheeky little cocktail kimonos?
If not it wont last
 
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The Japanese navy has a long association with the Royal Navy going back to
1873 when Commander Archibald Douglas spent two years in Japan laying the building blocks for the modern Japanese navy. Admiral Kawamura went to London to persuade the admiralty to send a 34 man mission to Japan. A friend of ours Betty Kellock was a grand daughter of Douglas and was invited to a reception at the Japanese Embassy to commemorate 100 years of the Japanese Navy. Her grandfather being held in the highest regard.

Admiral KatunoshinYamanasi

"It may not be an overstatement that the ruling spirit, discipline and manifold faculties of the Japanese Navy were the result of the inestimable work of Commander Douglas and his staff".
 
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Does the Japanese Marine service have a penchant for naked roll mat fighting or little black cocktail dresses? Can they be spotted at the annual Army/Navy all in sumo comp wearing cheeky little cocktail kimonos?
If not it wont last
No, but they will do a great line in school uniform.....
 
#10
Cross posted on the Royal Navy forum and the 'Royal Marines no longer needed' thread.

Good find. I am surprised to learn that Japan does not already have Marines. Is this because of the Japanese constitution limiting 'offensive' capabilities, a consequence of the new constitution post 1945? Has the constitution been updated since the MacArthur days?

As a second year Engineering student I found myself doing a Business Studies model and wrote 800 words on the post 1945 ascent of Japan as an economic and industrial power. The key thing is post defeat, the American occupation stopped the return of the old ways, and encouraged trying new types of thinking. Guess what - they learnt from failure, and were open to new ideas, and grew. It was the US determination to stop a Communist Japan that led to the Japanese Tiger.

Seventy plus years on, Bushido is well and truly dead, and Geopolitical tension suggest Japan needs to do more both in self defence and in terms of contributing to international stability.
 
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The Japanese navy has a long association with the Royal Navy going back to
1873 when Commander Archibald Douglas spent two years in Japan laying the building blocks for the modern Japanese navy. Admiral Kawamura went to London to persuade the admiralty to send a 34 man mission to Japan. A friend of ours Betty Kellock was a grand daughter of Douglas and was invited to a reception at the Japanese Embassy to commemorate 100 years of the Japanese Navy. Her grandfather being held in the highest regard.

Admiral KatunoshinYamanasi

"It may not be an overstatement that the ruling spirit, discipline and manifold faculties of the Japanese Navy were the result of the inestimable work of Commander Douglas and his staff".
That must have been a great comfort to the crews of RN ships sunk by the Japanese
 
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That must have been a great comfort to the crews of RN ships sunk by the Japanese
It allowed the very new Japanese navy to wipe out the Chinese fleet at the Battle of the Yalu River, and hand the Russians their heads as well at Tsu Shima, Yellow Sea,and Port Arthur.
Obviously we taught them very well indeed
 
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ugly

LE
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You will find it's on the left side of the road. ;)
Correct side is the phrase you should be using, you changed china and that place fell to the communists, have you learnt nothing?
 

ugly

LE
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That must have been a great comfort to the crews of RN ships sunk by the Japanese
It has been alleged Pearl Harbour wouldn't have been so successful without learning lessons from Taranto!
The Andrew again leading the way in letting the cat out of the bag!
 
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With specific reference to the Japanese ‘equivalent’ of the USMC/RM they seem to be building up on what up till now has been a very small token amphibious capability.
The Meaning of Japan's New Amphibious Rapid Deployment Brigade Launch

The continuing Chinese expansion in the S China Sea has not been lost on Japan they are pushing ahead with the 5th Gen F-35B, together with a possible seaborne deployment.
Japan Wants Aircraft Carriers Armed with F-35s (And It Could Happen Fast)

As for NK’s missile development.
Japan's deployment of new missile defense system to take 6 years - The Mainichi

Meanwhile Japan continues looking for an F-22 type air superiority fighter with longer legs than the F-35.
Lockheed offers F-22 and F-35 hybrid for Japan's next fighter

Overall there has been a huge recent shake-up of the JSDF.
Japan’s ground force just had its biggest shake-up. Here’s why

China’s continued expansion with man made islands and challenges to the freedom of passage in International waters is being tested by both the US by sea and air, and recently the Royal Navy. Japanese fighters were also recently escorting USAF B-52’s in the area.
China’s ambassador to the UK, Liu Xiaoming, recently hit out at the US for creating major ”trouble" in the South China Seas by sending military warships and planes to the troubled region.
World War 3: US in show of force against China as it flies warplanes over East China Sea

This aggressive militarisation by China is also of ongoing concern to Australia and neighbouring countries.
Chinese missiles in the South China Sea have the US and Australia in a difficult position

This Chinese defiance has been in complete disregard to a previous dispute negotiation and ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague.
China has no legal basis to claim rights in South China Sea: court
 
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With specific reference to the Japanese ‘equivalent’ of the USMC/RM they seem to be building up on what up till now has been a very small token amphibious capability.
The Meaning of Japan's New Amphibious Rapid Deployment Brigade Launch

The continuing Chinese expansion in the S China Sea has not been lost on Japan they are pushing ahead with the 5th Gen F-35B, together with a possible seaborne deployment.
Japan Wants Aircraft Carriers Armed with F-35s (And It Could Happen Fast)

As for NK’s missile development.
Japan's deployment of new missile defense system to take 6 years - The Mainichi

Meanwhile Japan continues looking for an F-22 type air superiority fighter with longer legs than the F-35.
Lockheed offers F-22 and F-35 hybrid for Japan's next fighter

Overall there has been a huge recent shake-up of the JSDF.
Japan’s ground force just had its biggest shake-up. Here’s why

China’s continued expansion with man made islands and challenges to the freedom of passage in International waters is being tested by both the US by sea and air, and recently the Royal Navy. Japanese fighters were also recently escorting USAF B-52’s in the area.
China’s ambassador to the UK, Liu Xiaoming, recently hit out at the US for creating major ”trouble" in the South China Seas by sending military warships and planes to the troubled region.
World War 3: US in show of force against China as it flies warplanes over East China Sea

This aggressive militarisation by China is also of ongoing concern to Australia and neighbouring countries.
Chinese missiles in the South China Sea have the US and Australia in a difficult position

This Chinese defiance has been in complete disregard to a previous dispute negotiation and ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague.
China has no legal basis to claim rights in South China Sea: court
I think closer ties & cooperation between the UK & Japan would be of benefit to both.
If we're going to build our own Typhoon replacement, then the Japanese might well be a good fit as a partner in that too.
 

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