Royal Irish Part-time

#1
I've always wondered how this works.

In the Royal Irish there is a regular battalion, a number of home service battalions and a TA battalion.

But a number of offical sites and publications refer to x amount of full time troops and y amount of part time troops.

Are what is refered to as part time troops the TA element or are they a different group?
 
#2
No, part time means that they have a full time job or are doing it for the love of it (paid) and do their Internal security bit.

TA aren't part of the RIR but they do field a Bn the Rangers.
 
#4
R Irish:

1st Bn: General Service - All full time Regs.
2nd Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
3rd Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
4th Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
The Rangers: TA Bn - TA.

That is my understanding of the R Irish, who is this RIR some of you speak of? :wink:
Obviously the disbandment of teh 3 HS Bn's happens on the 1st August 2007.

Busterdog will know, PM him.
 
#5
manchestercop said:
R Irish:

1st Bn: General Service - All full time Regs.
2nd Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
3rd Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
4th Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
The Rangers: TA Bn - TA.

That is my understanding of the R Irish, who is this RIR some of you speak of? :wink:
Obviously the disbandment of teh 3 HS Bn's happens on the 1st August 2007.

Busterdog will know, PM him.
manchestercop has it pretty much spot on. The Home Service Bns have both full time and part time companies.

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#6
TheSpecialOne said:
Irlsgt - was you on the parade today? Didn't look too bad at all (apart from the officer cadets who can't march! :wink: )
I think you might mean the RDF (formerly FCÁ) who were inspected by H.E. The President just prior to the start of the parade proper - their arms drill wasn't too bad, but their foot drill was appalling. That said, there was a contingent of cadets mixed in with other PDF and RDF personnel later on during the march past, and some of their number were marching out of kilter. However, I felt the parade was quite impressive, and I was speculating fancifully at how wonderful it would have been to send the ARW recce gun-jeeps around the corner to Sinn Féin HQ :twisted:
 
#7
No - I thought the RDF/FCA were ok - it was later on and defo officer cadets - even the UN vets did better.

When did the Rangers get the Ford jeeps? They looked like they were straight out of their wrappers - the last photos I saw they had land Rovers. Are the Fords any good?

The Mowags looked a decent bit of kit - unlike our new 432's! But the Air Corps turn out was embarrassing - some air clubs have better planes!
 
#10
Hmmm, its just that cadets tend to be very good at drill. Didn't Jackie Kennedy request a cadet drill team for John F. Kennedy's funeral?

Did the bad marchers have a white rim round their hats? I'm not sure but I suspect all cadets have this? Perhaps someone could confirm it?

Tricam.
 
#11
Cadets from the Military College have a white cap band with a small green band superimposed. They also have white epaulettes, and like officers wear brown shoes; their uniform is of a slightly lighter shade to ORs. It wouldn't surprise me if one of the RTÉ commentators 'got it wrong' in this instance, as the commentary of some of those commentating was decidedly ropey - a certain woman referred to the RDF honour guard as being drawn from the 65th RDF Brigade instead of Battalion.

Well remembered Tricam - Jackie Kennedy did indeed specifically request a contingent from the Cadet School to perform the reverse arms drill at JFK's funeral (this drill had been performed for them during their visit here). In the programme they were referred to as the 'Special Honour Guard'.

I'll check with my father, but at the time it was probably performed using the FN FAL, though it could have possibly been the Lee-Enfield No. 4 rifle.
 
#12
manchestercop said:
R Irish:

1st Bn: General Service - All full time Regs.
2nd Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
3rd Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
4th Bn: Home Service - Full & Part time Regs.
The Rangers: TA Bn - TA.

That is my understanding of the R Irish, who is this RIR some of you speak of? :wink:
Obviously the disbandment of teh 3 HS Bn's happens on the 1st August 2007.

Busterdog will know, PM him.

Very close, just one thing. Home Service do not have regs. They are on 'Home Service' contracts. They cannot be called to the colours like the TA.
 
#13
Home service also now have the Home Service Worldwide contract.
Brought in about three years ago?

Essentially 1st Battallion normal general service battallion

2 (Palace) ,3 (Drumadd) & 4 (St Lucia) all home service battalions

Then the Rangers (Portadown) which is the TA element (No internal security role)
 
#14
Lurgan_Stoop said:
Home service also now have the Home Service Worldwide contract.
Brought in about three years ago?

Essentially 1st Battallion normal general service battallion

2 (Palace) ,3 (Drumadd) & 4 (St Lucia) all home service battalions

Then the Rangers (Portadown) which is the TA element (No internal security role)
Home Service cannot be called to the colours. The contract you refer to allows them to volunteer for service elsewhere.

1st Battalion - correct. Busy sunning themselves on the exotic beaches of Fort George.

Royal Irish Rangers - for give me for saying so but Portadown is HQ (North Irish Militia) Coy. They other coys are dotted around the place, including D (London Irish Rifles) Coy, on the King's Road, Chelsea.

Unless something has changed which I don't know about.
 
#17
GDav said:
Very close, just one thing. Home Service do not have regs. They are on 'Home Service' contracts. They cannot be called to the colours like the TA.
Wrong...wrong...wrong.

Home Service Only contracts ended some time ago my friend. For approx the last 7 years all new members of the RIR have been on the "Normal" Regular service contract.

Members with previous service in the Regular Battalions such as Blackwatch, Cheshires, etc,etc were kept on their Normal regular contracts when they transferred or re-engaged into the RIR.

And I AM in 3. And I AM ex-Regular, and I AM on the old type contract which i was re-engaged on after a short spell in civvy street.

I think you should do some proper research mate, but thanks for your input.
 
#18
Bossdog said:
GDav said:
Very close, just one thing. Home Service do not have regs. They are on 'Home Service' contracts. They cannot be called to the colours like the TA.
Wrong...wrong...wrong.

Home Service Only contracts ended some time ago my friend. For approx the last 7 years all new members of the RIR have been on the "Normal" Regular service contract.

Members with previous service in the Regular Battalions such as Blackwatch, Cheshires, etc,etc were kept on their Normal regular contracts when they transferred or re-engaged into the RIR.

And I AM in 3. And I AM ex-Regular, and I AM on the old type contract which i was re-engaged on after a short spell in civvy street.

I think you should do some proper research mate, but thanks for your input.
Well you better tell that to MOD because they're still saying that RIR Home Service do not serve overseas except for training and volunteering.


I say again - Home Service is not Colour Service.
 
#19
Bossdog said:
GDav said:
Very close, just one thing. Home Service do not have regs. They are on 'Home Service' contracts. They cannot be called to the colours like the TA.
Wrong...wrong...wrong.

Home Service Only contracts ended some time ago my friend. For approx the last 7 years all new members of the RIR have been on the "Normal" Regular service contract.

Members with previous service in the Regular Battalions such as Blackwatch, Cheshires, etc,etc were kept on their Normal regular contracts when they transferred or re-engaged into the RIR.

And I AM in 3. And I AM ex-Regular, and I AM on the old type contract which i was re-engaged on after a short spell in civvy street.

I think you should do some proper research mate, but thanks for your input.
In fact, perhaps you better have a wee read at it yourself. http://www.army.mod.uk/hqni/defence_press_office/royal_irish_regiment.htm

If I were you I'd pay particular attention to the bit that says, "The Royal Irish Regiment positively seeks to recruit from all sectors of the community from throughout the British Isles. Recruits from the Republic of Ireland are particularly welcome. The Regiment allows people to serve either part-time or full-time within resident battalions. Those who wish to serve overseas have to enlist for General Service."

As a former soldier with 11 I am aware of how poor the admin can be at Drumadd, so perhaps you'd better nip in and tell your Chief Clerk that he's just made you make a pillock of yourself on a public website by telling another poster to "do some proper research".

I certainly hope your weapons handling is better than your posting style.
 

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