Royal Conspiracies

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  1. This evening I watched a documentary about the nutter who tried to kidnap Princess Anne, and the nutter who (twice!) got into Buckingham Palace and sat on the Queen's bed.

    I searched the chap who tried kidnapping HRH and found this


    Also, did anyone, guarding either, have any experience of these attempts or others?
  2. I think the bloke has a problem with reality, or Frank has.
  3. Gremlin

    Gremlin LE Good Egg (charities)

    That has to be one of the best scams that I've ever seen, with one slight flaw - there are no contact details.

    How does someone who has been in Broadmoor for the past 25 years have £55k in their bank balance?

    How the hell does someone who is locked away register and pay for a website?

    And this is the best bit of the lot:

    Domain name:

    Ian Ball

    Registrant type:
    UK Individual

    Registrant's address:
    Kent 2
    Broadmoor Hospital
    WR1 3DB
    United Kingdom

    Registered on: 02-Jan-2003
    Renewal date: 02-Jan-2011
    Last updated: 02-Feb-2009

  4. My thoughts entirely!!!!!
  5. This is to do with his legal status as a 'Patient' rather than as a 'Prisoner'.
    Because he is not a prisoner per se he is entitled to Incapacity Benefit or whatever they call it these days.
    This is usually paid into a personal bank account and can mount up over the years, so it is not unusual for long term inmates of Special Hospitals (Broadmoor, Rampton, Ashworth and smaller psychiatric secure units) to have quite large bank balances.

    I have been reliably informed that our friend from Yorkshire, Mr Sutcliffe, is worth a small fortune. The same can be said about Ian Brady.

    Unbelievable but totally true.
  6. It is totally unbelievable; so it is quite likely this nutter actually set up this website? How are they even given internet access!

    What happened to that chap who tried shooting at HM?
  7. To my (uncertain) knowledge, patients at special hospitals and secure units don't have the type of internet access that would allow them to set up a website, but this wouldn't prevent friends or family doing so on their behalf.
    I have seen this chap's website before and I believe it is genuine.

    As for the other bloke (Marcus Sergeant?), I think he did his time in the nick and hasn't been heard of since.
  8. From Balls website:

    On the 1st January 1972 (8 months before my 25th birthday) Frank convinced me that it was, in fact, the 1st January 1971. He did this, ostensibly, to help me explaining to any interested parties that I was not married and I had no chance of getting married in the next 8 months and that, therefore, the deception would save my life as, when I was a teenager, I had told him that I desperately wanted to get married and that if I was not married by the time I was 25 I would commit suicide. Therefore by convincing me that I was 23 instead of 24, an extra year would be gained in which to find some way of making sure I did not bring about my own demise.

    Incredibly, people believed Frank's story and the idea worked very well and succeeded in its objective of totally isolating me from people as, whenever I started talking to a stranger, an Uxbridge copper obviously had to interrupt the conversation, ostensibly to make sure the stranger did not reveal the correct date. The copper would take the stranger to one side, where he would have a quiet word and convince him that it was better if he did not talk to me. The isolation was compounded by the fact that, as I was one year behind, I was also one day behind everyone else, this meant that if I went to an event such as the Bank Holiday Fair on Wormwood Scrubs Common there was nobody there as it was already over.

    What a b@stard this Frank is eh? Shouldn't the mob hounding poor old Baron Shorttarrse switch their attentions to finding and shaming this character?
  9. I love the fact Frank convinced his his age and the date was wrong!
  10. Blimey. Small world. I live very close to Uxbridge, within 2 miles in fact and very frequently go there shopping. I know this was a long time ago but I never knew this nutjob was from around here.
  11. After 30 odd years you would think he could come up with something better than that rubbish.
  12. seaweed

    seaweed LE Book Reviewer

    I do wonder if the Incapacity Benefit takes account of their NHS food and lodging. Bet it doesn't.
  13. Incapacity benefit is capped at around 8k, or at least it's supposed to be.
  14. No it doesn't.

    It can also be topped up by other allowances related to disability and is incrementally increased according to how long you have been on it.

    Nice gig if you are doing life and you can swing a Section 47/49 transfer to a secure hospital.
  15. Thats not all Frank did, from Balls website:

    About a week before the incident I collected the guns from the bank. When I got them home I tested the .22 caliber revolver and I found that, when I fired the gun, only the detonator in the bullet exploded. This confirmed that Frank had taken the gunpowder out of the bullets thereby ensuring that I couldn't injure anyone with them.

    From the WIKI article:

    As Princess Anne and Mark Phillips were returning to Buckingham Palace on 20 March 1974, from a charity event on Pall Mall, their Princess IV limousine was forced to stop by a Ford Escort.[7] The driver of the Escort, Ian Ball, jumped out and began firing a gun. Inspector James Beaton, the Princess's personal police officer, responded by exiting the limousine in order to shield the Princess and try to disarm Ball. Beaton's firearm, a Walther PPK, jammed, and he was shot by the assailant, as was Anne's chauffeur, Alex Callender, when he tried to disarm Ball.[8] Brian McConnell, a passerby, also intervened, and was shot in the chest. Ball approached the Austin Princess and told Anne of his kidnapping plan, which was to hold the Princess for ransom, the sum given by varying sources as £2 million[9] or £3 million, which he intended to give to the National Health Service.[7] Ball then directed Anne to get out of the car, to which she replied: "Not bloody likely!", and briefly considered hitting Ball.[10] Eventually, she dived out the other side of the limousine and another passing pedestrian, Ron Russell, punched Ball in the back of the head and then led Anne away from the scene. At that point, Police Constable Michael Hills happened upon the situation; he too was shot by Ball,

    So, Frank is not just a b@stard, he's an incompetent b@stard..