Royal Australian Navy to go Nuclear

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An ex-Oz Navy Lt works just up the road from me. He was in the engineering branch. While he loves his old ship and mates, he hated the service as being utterly devoid of humour, and management who appeared determined to ensure that no fun was had by anyone at any time.
 
Such a shame too, after such a professional and well-delivered response to some truly astonishing questions from a senate committee by an admiral:


She is exactly why - my carrer plateaus at team leader and i will never be in a seior position

See how he deftly fields her questions repeatedly explains the same point and patiently answers the nest bone comment - note also the tactful dissmissal of the 20 minutes max submerged -

Me - Ive asked if shes ignoring me, deaf, or just feckin stupid by at best half way through that video and the chances are I wasnt that polite. I lack the ability to tactfully deal with idiots in an unoffensive manner.

On the upside - Arrse proves im not alone
 
 
You would think Australia would have gone for solar powered subs.
Would the solar panels go on the front of the boat?

They have a problem down there with the front of the boat falling off in that environment.
 
There be the devil I the detail, but as well as the touted 'sharing' off nuclear tech and support, I'd expect a quid pro quo of this will be the permanent basing of USN SSN's in Oz along with the support infrastructure. Chinese will have an absolute fit if that happens
Thats the real point I suspect .
The Aussie barracuda 'vectored thrust' or whatever D/E sub project made the British AFV fiasco look good . The YouTube clip is excruciating.
 
Cue 12 months of every SM rating declaring that “I could leave, get my rate and £10000000 per year for TXing to Aus.”

Gerroff. You can work from home. Here's your works broadband.
 
Such a shame too, after such a professional and well-delivered response to some truly astonishing questions from a senate committee by an admiral:


She is a f***ing disgrace. She didn’t even know what questions she was actually asking!

That smacks of either she was drunk, or an assistant wrote the questions out for her.
If the questions were written for her, she did less than zero research to know anything about what she was asking.

And the politicians wonder why we f***ing despise them!

Is she Oz’s version of that Abbott creature? FFS…
 
She is a f***ing disgrace. She didn’t even know what questions she was actually asking!

That smacks of either she was drunk, or an assistant wrote the questions out for her.
If the questions were written for her, she did less than zero research to know anything about what she was asking.

And the politicians wonder why we f***ing despise them!

Is she Oz’s version of that Abbott creature? FFS…

'...Did you pacifically go looking for a diesel submarine?...' '...nucular...' 'Loads of other gormless wibble.'

Sweet farking Odin's holy undercrackers! Was that the best option they had at the election?
 

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Such a shame too, after such a professional and well-delivered response to some truly astonishing questions from a senate committee by an admiral:


At the 55-56 second mark she says "did you pacifically..." instead of using the word 'specifically', the trademark malapropism of a FÜCKING RETARD.

Edit: beaten to it by @Lardbeast . I was too busy creating a false twitter account and sending insults to the stupid bitch!
 
At the 55-56 second mark she says "did you pacifically..." instead of using the word 'specifically', the trademark malapropism of a FÜCKING RETARD.

Edit: beaten to it by @Lardbeast . I was too busy creating a false twitter account and sending insults to the stupid bitch!
She started her political career running a fish and chip shop, before doing a political move that would have Katie Hopkins seething with envy, founding her own right wing Australia First/One Nation party.

Anyway, my dad was RAN, and he'll be raising a glass in the celestial pub today to celebrate the new toys.
 
Now i don't pretend to be knowledgeable about current affairs and geopolitics etc.

But... i fail to see how this is in the UK interest being part of this pact? Money for UK industry with respect to participating in design, build, training of the submarines i can see. But that is a very small outcome vs trade with China.

Oz procuring 12 Nuclear subs actually means them buying 1.5 as they wont actually have the resource or funding for 12 (The UK only has funding for 6 attack?). Which possibly means as mentioned above, the US basing subs in Oz.

I'm not sure what benefit the UK will get here. Why does the UK need to help the US be world sea police? Why does the UK need to antagonise the Chinese?

I personally think we should play both sides for us only. The South China seas issue is a for the local countries to deal with, and maybe with US assistance by request.

Nothing to do with the UK. We should focus on more business with the Chinese, US and Oz?
I'm sure the UK comes off worse financially with these things. Maybe the great EU would like to get involved instead? As an independent nation, the UK should remain impartial and sell everyone else the tools (thinking Lend lease but for UK...!).
 
But that is a very small outcome vs trade with China.

The short term advantage to trade with China is that we can get lots of products (of very variable quality) manufactured very cheaply due to Chinese labour and environmental practices, currency manipulation and so on. The long term disadvantage is that our own industry evaporates and when the dust settles we can't manufacture anything any more and at that point China can charge us any price it likes. Classic predatory moves to undercut the competition. It's not in our interests to antagonise them for the sake of it, but it is very much in our interest to wean ourselves off that trade.
 
I’ll be honest - you couldn’t pay me enough to serve in the RAN. There’s a very good reason why they’re short of experienced Senior Rates and mid-seniority Officers…
To be fair, some of the very best officers I have worked for (in the purple environment) were RAN. But also one or two of the worst as well. One of the worst was a submariner. It was an absolute pleasure to work for my last RAN boss, we were instinctively on the same page. I was an Army WO1, she was a LCDR.

In my last posting I had three CPOs working for me; one was a star and got commissioned (later, after being promoted to WO) and the other two were on psych drugs, the details of which I was not allowed to know. Many POs and LSs were brilliant also, although we lost a lot of very good people at their six year point.

All of that was in a fairly specialised area though.
 

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