Royal Army?

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  1. Can anyone tell me why we have the Royal Navy & Royal Air Force, but the Army isn`t Royal?
  2. blue-sophist

    blue-sophist LE Good Egg (charities)

    It's something to do with coming second at The Battle of Hastings [1066] .. apparently the King was very cross with them.

    And, being sticklers for tradition, the Army kept it that way.

  3. I was led to believe that the armies of old were raised by wealthy land owners who had had pledged their allegiance to the monach and as sorts had to provide bands of volunteers ....... for war. Hence the reason we have a our regimental system, which comes from these local volunteer forces
  4. blue-sophist

    blue-sophist LE Good Egg (charities)

    Interesting theory.

    But ... not all the Army was revolting, so why are most Regiments "Royal".
    Have they been forgiven, or did they not take part in the Civil War?
    And what did the AGC do to annoy King Charles I?

    It does not compute, Captain.
  5. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
    1. Battlefield Tours

    Made a mess of his travel claim :D
  6. There was a standing Navy, but no standing army. Only the great artillery (boom not bang) and various supply posts existed, and mainly officers and their few chaps.

    There is still no standing air force, sitting up in their vchairs to order another Pimm's is the nearest vertical they get.
  7. does every regiment and corps have a crown?
  8. blue-sophist

    blue-sophist LE Good Egg (charities)

    ... and the RE Balloon School begat the RE RE Air Battalion, and the RE Air Battalion begat the Royal Flying Corps, and the RFC begat the RAF.
    ... So it's the Army's fault.

    Anyway, back to the question on page 1 ... why not The Royal Army?

    [=edit .... ah, we've been here before. Going away quietly now .... :oops: [/edit]
  9. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    And others eg Welsh Guards, Gren Guards etc
  10. That's right, hence names like Sir John Owen's Regiment of Foote, The Earl of Northampton's Regiment of Foote and Sir Edward Duncombe's Dragoones (from the Civil War).

    The Navy, on the other hand, was paid for by the monarch, which was why it has always been Royal.

    As an aside, the reason we now have the Civil List, where the monarch gives all of her/his income to the government and gets a lesser amount back from them, was introduced because the maintainance of the Royal Navy got more and more expensive and would have eventually bankrupted the monarchy. The Civil List deal passed that expense on to the government.
  11. Who promptly passed it on the the tax payer :(
  12. blue-sophist

    blue-sophist LE Good Egg (charities)

    Good job they didn't have an Air Force then.
    Imagine the bill for Typhoon landing on the King's doormat.
  13. Might not have been so expensive if he had to pay for it!
  14. Most army regiments were raised after the restoration and most had 'royal' in the title or were a royal 'own' as in Prince of Wales Own. In fact, difficult to think of many that didn't except the county regiments, and some jock ones. (not inc. Guards Regiments that were Royal by default)

    But the queen is commander in chief (I think) so all army regiments are loyal to her whether its got royal in the title or not.