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Row over release order for illegal immigrants

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BBC News said:
21 February 2007
Row over immigrant release order

Police contacted the Home Office to alert them of the arrests

The Home Secretary is asked why North Wales Police were told to release a group of illegal immigrants and let them get to an asylum screening centre.

It is understood that earlier this year officers arrested five men - believed to be from Iraq and Iran.

The police contacted the Immigration and Nationality Directorate and were told to let them find their way to a asylum screening centre in Liverpool.

The Home Office said there were "rare occasions" when staff might not be able to attend after police made arrests, such as targeting illegal working or removing failed asylum seekers.

Shadow Welsh Secretary Cheryl Gillan, who has raised the issue in the Commons, said Home Office officials had even provided a "helpful map" for police to pass on to the men, who had been found in the back of a van which had been stopped.

The map gave directions to an asylum screening centre in Liverpool.

It has emerged that one of the arrested men was carrying a document which confirmed that days earlier he had been refused permission to enter the UK.

Speaking on BBC Radio Wales on Thursday, Ms Gillan, the MP for Chesham and Amersham, said the matter showed the Home Office was "a security system in chaos".

She said: "This fails both the compassion test and the security test.

"If these were genuine asylum seekers that didn't expect to disappear into the United Kingdom the moment they got inside our borders, then they will maybe have been distressed or had no money and would need help to get to the immigration offices in Liverpool.

"If not, and if the concerns of the police, and they were concerned enough about these individuals as I understand it, then the security element is not met.

Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom is awaiting a Home Office reply


"So it's demoralising for the police. It sends the wrong messages out to people that want to come into this country and it also points out a gap in the Home Office."

Immigration Advisory Service Chief Executive Keith Best said the number of people seeking asylum had fallen from 84,000 in 2002 to around 25,000.

He said arriving in the UK on forged documents was not an offence if it was the only way of escaping a tyranny.

He said: "If you were to detain every single person claiming asylum as though they were a criminal, when in fact they're not - most people want to comply with the procedures because they want to have their claim for asylum heard.

"But if you were to lock all those people up, can you imagine the impact on the prison estate of another 25,000 people going in there?"

'Joint working'

North Wales Police said Chief Constable Richard Brunstrom had written to Home Secretary John Reid about the issue and was awaiting a reply.

The Home Office said in a statement: "The Immigration and Nationality Directorate (IND) and police already work closely and effectively and the minister for immigration has announced how he wishes to increase this level of joint working between police and the IND, especially to tackle the hard end of immigration crime.

"The Home Secretary has also made it clear that he is determined to ensure that the police and the Home Office worked in a joined up and effective manner.
 
#2
Lots of "Someone Elses Problem" going on here. Well done the HO!
 
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rockape34 said:
Here

BBC News said:
21 February 2007
Row over immigrant release order


Immigration Advisory Service Chief Executive Keith Best said the number of people seeking asylum had fallen from 84,000 in 2002 to around 25,000.

He said arriving in the UK on forged documents was not an offence if it was the only way of escaping a tyranny.

He said: "If you were to detain every single person claiming asylum as though they were a criminal, when in fact they're not - most people want to comply with the procedures because they want to have their claim for asylum heard.

"But if you were to lock all those people up, can you imagine the impact on the prison estate of another 25,000 people going in there?"
If the Cheif Executive of the Immigration Advisory Service, an influential charity, is so thick it is not wonder there are problems.

If someone arrives with improper documentation or through other illegal means, then prima facie they have commited an offence and whether or not they have a valid defence is another issue altogether. In the meantime they should be treated as such because without a valid defence, they have commited an offence.

According to the man's logic, people who have been caught killing another person should not be held in remand because if he killed in Self-defence, then he is not a criminal.

What a fool.

Then he suddenly shifts attention to the lack of prison spaces - Keith Best, I would let someone else worry about that if I were you. You just concentrate on doing your job.
 

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