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Still won't stop the bas***ds getting relegated!!!!
think he might.
won't be good to watch but he may save them.
good start for Big Sam.
I briefly read an article earlier online from a former player stating that if clubs keep treating new managers with this level of disrespect and sacking them after months rather than years then pretty sure there will be no former professional players stepping up into the management game.
I'm at an ends as to whether this would be a good thing or not! Many of the worlds best managers have previously been players...
To cut a long story short, I believe Paul Ince should have been given a lot more time. Rome was not built in a day!
Wasn't Paul Ince unqualified? Wasn't there a lot of fuss about the lack of black managers? Didn't the FA turn a blind eye to him being a manager?
Now blackburn have fallen on their arse maybe other clubs won't go down the PC route.
It's irrelevant about whether he was qualified or not in this scenario, it was the same with Keegan amongst others... Managers are not being given the treatment they deserve, chairmen are constantly looking for short term gains rather than long term....
Arsenal or Liverpool do not win an awful lot of honours at the moment yet their managers have been in place for years, something could be learnt from that also?!
Obviously it was relevant because he didn't do a good enough job. How many other jobs in the country would you put unqualified people into? What the point of the qualification if you don't need it?
Yes managers sometimes get treated badly, but I think in this case the FA were a little colour blind.
I believe you are 100% correct in saying he was not qualified but if Blackburn did not believe he was the right man for the job would they have hired him? I'm not entirely sure colour would have been an issue in their selection but perhaps in this instance it was.
Sometimes if one is unqualified but has baskets of experience then it may not be an issue, its a shame for Ince as he was doing rather well with his original club, pity he didnt stick with them for a few seasons.
Perhaps there should be some form of legislation put in place by the FA prohibiting clubs from sacking managers in the first 6 months. 4 months is just not enough time to show how good someone can be!
Thus ends my rant!
I would have thought it would be the other way around to be honest especially at Rovers. At the end of the day the club comes first and the Chairman has a duty to act in the best interests of the club. It's no use giving a manager lots of time to "develop" if in the process the club is relegated. Usually what happens then is the "developed" manager buggers off!
Moving up and down between divisions for years was fairly OK but the financial gap that exists now between the premier league and the championship means that for clubs such as Rovers who are not likely to compete regularly for european spots the primary objective is always "survive another season". It's not pretty or romantic but its downright bloody realistic and it explains why Big Sam is now in the picture.
My elder brother is a season-ticket holder at Ewood and had been for the past 30 yrs. Given the noises he's made I understand Ince was lucky to last till Dec. - the standard of football up until Sat. has been absolute crap
Fair point but I believe it to be a bit nonsensical for the blame to be always laid on the manager. Ultimately for those 90 minutes its the players that decide the managers fate and something doesnt seem quite right about that.
If thats the case then chairmen should be laying off strikers who score 1 in 20 or goalkeepers that keep 1 clean sheet in 20, do you see what I mean in that respect?
You are right with regards to finance, money is king in this game and if a team is not winning then the money dries up which obviously leads to bigger things.
Your brother is clearly an example of a committed fan which is nice to see becuase there is too much 'own player booing' going on these days from so called 'fans'.
Rather than "blame" I'd go for "responsibility". A manager is employed to pick the team that plays and is therefore responsible/answerable for their performance on the day. If the players don't perform then he can and should deal with it as the man on the spot with the authority. If he doesn't then he's not managing the situation very well and there comes a point at which his employer has to correct that situation as best they can.
the guy was obviously shit ay his job results show that someone had to take action and get rid not sure bout the new new guy. kick and hope specialist
Its a new trend look at city
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