Router Recommendation

BrunoNoMedals

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#1
I have a pish-poor connection (Orange broadband through a BT line. Should be getting 8Mb but the old location restrictions mean I only get 1.5-2Mb on my street). For the last year I've been the only person in my house to give it any form of remotely-stressful usage. Last week two new housemates moved in, and both like to stream video.

The landlord has offered to compensate me for allowing other housemates access to a connection that I set up and paid for, that is registered in my name. I don't intend to go back on that, since I'm actually making a profit on it now.

My current router is provided by Orange - a Siemens SE572 (or something like that). It's wireless, compact, and has a simple but effective interface. Its range is a little short, and its only "advanced functions" are MAC address filtering, specified IP addressing and the like.

I want a new router that will give me better usage, and balls to the other housemates. I've got some CS:S and TF:2 to play (never mind all the grot I need to download). I need a good router with decent signal strength, preferably no more than £50, and most importantly it needs to come with interal bandwidth prioritisation that allows me to reserve a portion of the bandwidth for my own IP address. That way I can ensure I always get, say, 80% of the connection and I can stop worrying about my latency jumping up to the 400 mark when it should be at 40. A model that I can pick up from (God forbid) PC World or something on short notice would be even better.

Alternatively, is there any firmware available for my current router that would give me this functionality?

I'm no computer biff, but networking is not my strong point and I'm hoping that the combined knowledge of the ARRSE Elite can point me in the right direction :)
 
#2
Having struggled to move my Broadband from one house to another recently my top tip is to get one that is supported technically by your ISP.
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#4
PrinceAlbert said:
It may not/probably not be the router, but the ISP/telephone line.
Oh I know the total bandwidth is the problem of my ISP and there's nothing I can do about that until I move house in the next couple of months - but if I'm only getting 2Mb through the pipe I don't fancy letting some little scrote who can't wash up take the first 1.5 when I could be shooting German kids and w@nking myself silly to German porn.

And Ash, yeah I know that ISP compatibility can be a ballache. I've got my "Orange Livebox" as well as this Siemens thing so I've always got a fallback while I work something out. In the mean time I just want to try and get a more advanced, more efficient and more adaptable bit of kit in. I'm hoping any recommendations made here will be devoid of too many compatibility issues.
 
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#5
BrunoNoMedals said:
PrinceAlbert said:
It may not/probably not be the router, but the ISP/telephone line.
Oh I know the total bandwidth is the problem of my ISP and there's nothing I can do about that until I move house in the next couple of months - but if I'm only getting 2Mb through the pipe I don't fancy letting some little scrote who can't wash up take the first 1.5 when I could be shooting German kids and w@nking myself silly to German porn.

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Why don't you throttle his bandwidth then?
 
#6
well, why your landlord allows anyone else on your line, goes over my head, but when the old bill comes knocking when they start downloading kiddie video's and your the one with the connection and name on the line (you get the idea) password protect the connection, tell em to get their own line installed
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#7
PrinceAlbert said:
Why don't you throttle his bandwidth then?
Because the Siemens router I currently run doesn't have the capability to prioritise bandwidth like that (or if it does, I don't know how). Hence me asking for recommendations for a good quality, good value, compatible router that does!
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#8
DesktopCommando said:
well, why your landlord allows anyone else on your line, goes over my head, but when the old bill comes knocking when they start downloading kiddie video's and your the one with the connection and name on the line (you get the idea) password protect the connection, tell em to get their own line installed
Landlord's got signed contracts stating just how many people are in the house. If they want to start seizing equipment they can feel free - I won't be the only suspect. However, I'd be the most likely to have something incriminating on my HDDs... 8O
 
#10
You want a lot for your £50! The only kit I would trust to do a half decent job of what your asking along with the ability to log and filter traffic would be a cisco 800 or 1800 series router. Juniper would be another option but whicherver option you choose for a proffesional quality router,you are looking at £150 plus even secondhand.
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#11
msr said:
I think you will need something like this: http://www.untangle.com/home

msr
Looks interesting - the functionality I need comes under the QoS section right?

Would this mean having to run my desktop as a server, though, rather than having everyone connecting to the router directly?
 
#12
BrunoNoMedals said:
msr said:
I think you will need something like this: http://www.untangle.com/home

msr
Looks interesting - the functionality I need comes under the QoS section right?

Would this mean having to run my desktop as a server, though, rather than having everyone connecting to the router directly?
You would have to find an old PC to run this on.

Would make a great weekend project too :)
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#13
msr said:
BrunoNoMedals said:
msr said:
I think you will need something like this: http://www.untangle.com/home

msr
Looks interesting - the functionality I need comes under the QoS section right?

Would this mean having to run my desktop as a server, though, rather than having everyone connecting to the router directly?
You would have to find an old PC to run this on.

Would make a great weekend project too :)
Could get complicated for the sake of a few months! I'll bear it in mind, but a router with that quality of service provision built into the firmware would be the ideal solution. I've got old PCs and laptops galore, but none of them have wireless (extra cost to add that...) and there are no suitable places to store the machine while it's on :(
 
#14
Try this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AVM-FRITZ-BOX-ROUTER_W0QQitemZ300327676468QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_Networking_SM?hash=item45ececaa34&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1690|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

Shooting German kids and loading German porn with German equipment: D

Good kit does everything
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#17
Quality article, cheers msr. Now to price up some WRT54Gs...
 
#18
Just to stick my Oar in.

Recommend looking at Draytek Vigors or getting hold of a WRTG54L (or similar. forget the exact name) from Linksys and putting DD-WRT or Tomato firmware on it.
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#19
Cool, ta. With the DD-WRT stuff do I just download the latest "stable" release? I see there's a v24 and a v24 SP1; will I need both or is SP1 a full install by itself?
 
#20
BrunoNoMedals said:
Cool, ta. With the DD-WRT stuff do I just download the latest "stable" release? I see there's a v24 and a v24 SP1; will I need both or is SP1 a full install by itself?
I have a WRT54GS - DD-WRT (DD_WRT) is the best known replacement firmware but I run Tomato, which is also pretty good: Tomato.

One thing though, check which version the router is with the software for compatibility before you buy, I gather the later versions aren't as hacker friendly as the earlier - eg mines a WRT54GS v.4
 

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