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Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1,400 kids exploited

And it is the people who protected him who ought to be the subject of inquiries today coupled with, where sufficient evidence exists, their appearance in court.

Unlikely there must be high profile paedos still protecting each other, and then you get the likes of Common Purpose and other socialists who want to encourage the breakup of the traditional family who see them as useful idiots (See Labours support of the Paedophile Information Exchange)
 

Cold_Collation

LE
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In view of the Home Secretary's attempts to obfuscate, this probably comes as a welcome development and takes us a step closer to having the whole matter kicked permanently into the long grass.
Which attempts?

I thought her foreword to the grooming report was a shot across the bows of the civil service's attempts to bury the problems relating to certain ethnicities' rapey propensities - however The Guardian tried to spin it.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Yup it all crawls out of the woodwork when they're dead and they can't sue you, the same reason the Jimmy Saville stuff became public knowledge suddenly
Even at this distance, I cannot see how those at the senior levels of the BBC didn't know.

I have a friend who when she was a student in Leeds did some portering work at the hospital there to help make ends meet. It was common knowledge then that you didn't find yourself alone in a room with Savile.

Johnny Lydon outed him as far back as 1976.
 

diverman

LE
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In view of the Home Secretary's attempts to obfuscate, this probably comes as a welcome development and takes us a step closer to having the whole matter kicked permanently into the long grass.
Or is it Home Office civil service ass covering as they knew what was going on and did nothing.
 

pc flaps

War Hero
Even at this distance, I cannot see how those at the senior levels of the BBC didn't know.

I have a friend who when she was a student in Leeds did some portering work at the hospital there to help make ends meet. It was common knowledge then that you didn't find yourself alone in a room with Savile.

Johnny Lydon outed him as far back as 1976.
There was also an Irvine Welsh short story about a famous DJ who volunteers at a hospital purely to prey on the stiffs. Obviously based on Savile.

Then there's this


Among those "in the know", this appears to have been the least secret secret in history. Yet the TV companies renewed his contracts for years, all through the 70s and 80s. It beggars belief no one at senior levels knew.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
There was also an Irvine Welsh short story about a famous DJ who volunteers at a hospital purely to prey on the stiffs. Obviously based on Savile.

Then there's this


Among those "in the know", this appears to have been the least secret secret in history. Yet the TV companies renewed his contracts for years, all through the 70s and 80s. It beggars belief no one at senior levels knew.
This was doing the rounds on the internet years back. It's a hoax, as is explained down the page, but it was out there a dozen years before Savile's death.
 

pc flaps

War Hero
This was doing the rounds on the internet years back. It's a hoax, as is explained down the page, but it was out there a dozen years before Savile's death.
Sorry, posted then off to a job, so didn't realise it wasn't visible. I actually posted the Jerry Sadowitz stand up routine from around 1987. It's a transcript as the audio has disappeared from YouTube.

I remember the HIGNFY thing doing the rounds, and iirc some obscure comedy writers came forward to say they wrote it.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Sorry, posted then off to a job, so didn't realise it wasn't visible. I actually posted the Jerry Sadowitz stand up routine from around 1987. It's a transcript as the audio has disappeared from YouTube.

I remember the HIGNFY thing doing the rounds, and iirc some obscure comedy writers came forward to say they wrote it.
Obscure the writers may be but it would have to have been an even more obscure topic to have just plucked out of thin air.

Yet still no Spidey-senses tingled, apparently...
 
Which attempts?

I thought her foreword to the grooming report was a shot across the bows of the civil service's attempts to bury the problems relating to certain ethnicities' rapey propensities - however The Guardian tried to spin it.
I believe that PP is using the civil service as a convenient shield behind which to hide. She is supposed to be the boss of the Home Office. What she says goes... or if it does not, perhaps she (or her boss) needs to review her position. (Yeah, we've all seen Yes Minister).

She needs to maintain authority and without chucking her weight around in a dramatically showy, but ultimately ineffectual, manner. I suspect that any alleged intransigence of the civil service may not necessarily be the only problem.
 

diverman

LE
Book Reviewer
I believe that PP is using the civil service as a convenient shield behind which to hide. She is supposed to be the boss of the Home Office. What she says goes... or if it does not, perhaps she (or her boss) needs to review her position. (Yeah, we've all seen Yes Minister).

She needs to maintain authority and without chucking her weight around in a dramatically showy, but ultimately ineffectual, manner. I suspect that any alleged intransigence of the civil service may not necessarily be the only problem.
I suspect it is Home Office CS intrangegence about releasing this report as it will show them up to be complicit in the cover up. Remember the unlamented John Reid Blair's bulldog, he couldn't cure the HOme Office of its incompetance.
 
I believe that PP is using the civil service as a convenient shield behind which to hide. She is supposed to be the boss of the Home Office. What she says goes... or if it does not, perhaps she (or her boss) needs to review her position. (Yeah, we've all seen Yes Minister).

She needs to maintain authority and without chucking her weight around in a dramatically showy, but ultimately ineffectual, manner. I suspect that any alleged intransigence of the civil service may not necessarily be the only problem.
@Filthy_contract , your thoughts ?
 
She needs to maintain authority and without chucking her weight around in a dramatically showy, but ultimately ineffectual, manner. I suspect that any alleged intransigence of the civil service may not necessarily be the only problem.

She just needs a whip and a PVC costume to maintain authority
 
Unlikely there must be high profile paedos still protecting each other, and then you get the likes of Common Purpose and other socialists who want to encourage the breakup of the traditional family who see them as useful idiots (See Labours support of the Paedophile Information Exchange)
Sadly, very true.
 
They don't want to name and shame because it'll set a precedent and then they'll be open to the same standards.

Same reason why no PM will ever hold the previous ones to account.
 

philc

LE
Savile & Smith we’re both discussed in the Pub by NOW newsdesk editor and staff over pints late 80s, I was at the bar and asked why they did not proced, roll of eyes, no back up from high up being the answer.

Protected or cowered by consequence of actions, many were aware.
 
This on the BBC this evening seems to be alluding to the Rotherham sex scandal and related grooming gangs,

Police arrest 320 dangerous UK child sex offenders - BBC News


This rather guarded bit "She added: "Crucially, it contains a commitment to collect higher quality data on the characteristics of offenders, so that the government can build a fuller picture of perpetrators, and tackle the abuse that has blighted many towns and cities across our country."
While naming some organisations/groups "Seventeen were in positions of trust, including a volunteer with the Scouts, church youth group leaders, a social worker, primary school and college teachers, a hospital care assistant, a police officer, and a civil servant."
 

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