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Rotherham child abuse scandal: 1,400 kids exploited

The fellas pulling the housing "scam" are probably doing it semi-legitimately, when you think of what people pay tax advisors for. The Jimmy Carrs of this world are doing it legally,totally above board, when they pay for tax advice on how to avoid tax. Nothing stopping the ordinary lad doing the same. When a taxi man or a farmer or a builder goes to his accountant once a year with a sack of receipts and the accountant says, "how much do you want to earn this year?", which figure turns out to be exactly a pound below the appropriate tax rate.
 

overopensights

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Considering I’ve served 25 years as a commissioned officer, I think I e earned my birth right, by the way it was in County Durham.

Who is us?
I don't believe you....sorry! attitude quite wrong for commissioning.
 

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You would think that our authorities would check these benefits claims before handing out masses of taxpayers dosh .

LB Harrow council back in the 2000s used a software package to ferret out fraudulent benefit claims. Iirc it was done by listening to people's voices on the phone to the benefits office and flagging likely signs of lying.

Also iirc the fraud rate was found to "only" be 2%.

The problem is benefits are too generous as well as easy to game. The part of the UK budget going on "Social Protection" is £285 Billion. That's benefits and public sector pensions. That's 31% of the overall budget and I'm sure back in the 80s it was about 21%. It will eat the rest of the budget at that rate, but the Cameron govt U-turned on every attempt to cut bennies after a storm of media-confected outrage.
 
You would think that our authorities would check these benefits claims before handing out masses of taxpayers dosh .


my bold ... but knowing many, if not ALL, local authorities are full of pc/woke personnel, they would consider it "racist" to dare query any claim of those who weren't white British :-(
 
I’m not hounding you out I want a reasoned discussion without the hyperbole, the implied racism and the lack of tolerance.

You seem to be racially profiling one part of society.


What are ”people like me“?

If you want a reasoned discussion then don't insult me. Lack of tolerance eh? Does that mean I'm not allowed to speak out against the demographic replacement of my country?

People 'like you' are ones who imply racism, lack of tolerance and scream about Nazis in order to stifle free speech and opinion.

How tolerant should a person be then? What does it mean for you, statistically, for the UK to be tolerant?
 
Getting worse by the day? Do you spend everymoment watching Fox News, RT, CNN and sky news?

Do you live in the UK?

Do expect all immigrants to assimilate or just the ones who have a different religion than you?
I live in the North East of England, Stationed in North Yorkshire and nothing you are banging on about resonates outside of your echo chamber.

I bet you are a supporter of KBF, anti vaxxer.

All immigrants should assimilate.

When bad things happen people divide themselves along ethnic lines. You see it happen everywhere and it was particularly alarming during hurricane Katrina.

When things go wrong in a bad way people are quite willing to massacre and turn on each other over petty differences, this can be seen throughout history and especially in places like the Middle East and Balkans.

Several times different groups have turned on each other on a smaller scale in the UK and people very quickly resorted to 'race riots'.

The more militant arm of the BLM are a good example of this. Not only are they calling to erase most aspects of British history and force white people to forget their past. The more unpleasant ones are calling for black people to dissociate themselves from white people, not to date them or have relationships with them.

If it were white people suggesting that then they would be immediately labelled as Nazis.

If mass immigration continues and the civil unrest continues then the immediate future will not be as pleasant as the immediate past.

I have no desire for my country to reflect places like Detroit or South Africa, but that's the way we're heading.

You appear to disagree with my PoV and resort to the typical lefty name calling. Provide me with some solutions to the above and we may have a discussion, in the meantime you're conforming to a cultural Marxists stereotype. Take a visit out of the Yorkshire Dales sometime and visit London and the South, then you might start to understand what I mean.
 
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ancienturion

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Some good Yorkshire names among this lot:

Those charged are:
Asif Ali (50) of Batley charged with rape offences (x12), inciting sexual activity with a child (x2), supply class B drugs (X1), trafficking (X1), aiding and abetting rape (x1) assisting in the commission of an indictable offence (x1) making an indecent photo of a child (x2), possession of extreme pornographic images (x1).

Amer Ali Hussain (42) of Batley charged with rape (x2)

Sarfraz Miraf – (45) of Dewsbury charged with rape offences (x1).

Nazam Hussain – (43) of Dewsbury, charged with rape offences (x4)

Mohammed Nazam Nasser (35) of Batley, charged with rape offences (x3).

Moshin Nadat (35) from Batley, served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x2) t

Michael Birkenshaw (34) from Wakefield served with a postal requisition for rape (x1)

Zafar Qayum (41) from Dewsbury charged with rape offences ( x17), gross indecency ( x4), indecent assault ( x9) assault ( X1) sexual activity with a child (x1) sexual assault (x1) theft (x1) and aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Jabbar Qayum (39) from Dewsbury, charged with rape offences (x6) and aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Ansar Mahmood Qayum (43) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x13), attempted indecent assault (x2), aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Mohammed Tauseef Hanif (36) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences ( x4) Bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court at 3pm on 14/12/20

Ali Hussain Shah (35) from Dewsbury. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x2)

Saleem Mohammed Nasir (44) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x3) and conspiracy to rape (x1).

Amran Mehrban (37) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x2), false imprisonment (x1) and sexual assault (x1)

Ebrahim Pandor (41) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x1) and trafficking (x2)

Shakil Daji (41) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x2) and trafficking (x1)

Mohammed Imran Zada (41) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x6), indecent assault ( x2) and sexual activity with a child (x1)

Sarkaut Yasen (35) from Dewsbury. Charged with trafficking (x1) and aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Amjad Hussain (41) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences ( x2). Bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court 10am on 11/12/20

Asuk Hussain (50) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape (x2) and bailed to appear at Kirklees Magistrates Court at 10am on 14/12/20

Zafar Iqbal (35) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x7) trafficking (x2) and supplying a Class B drug (x1)

Nasar Iqbal (35) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x7) and trafficking (x2)

Bilal Mahmood Patel (38) from Leicester. Charged with rape offences (x2)

Khurum Raziq (38) from Heckmondwike. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x8)

Irfan Khan (34) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x4) threats to kill (x1) false imprisonment (x1) and harassment (x1)

Omar Farooq Hussain (36) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x8) supplying class A drugs (x1)

Sarfraz Hussain Riaz (37) from Liversedge. Charged with rape offences (x2) and attempted rape ( x1) and bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court at 11am on 14/12/20.

Rameez Cheema (33) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x1) and bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court at 11am on 14/12/20

Nasar Hussain (42) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x6)

Mohammed Chothia (41) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x8)

Sajad Hussain (37) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x1), false imprisonment (x1) trafficking (x1), aiding and abetting rape (x1) and supplying Class C drugs (x1)

Yasser Ali (31) from Dewsbury. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x2)
 
The obvious way to get these people to clear off to Pakistan or wherever - charge them and then let them out on bail.

Just for clarification, all evidence so far points to a specific area and cultural subset, the offenders and barbaric culture seems to be attributed to Mirpur in Pakistan. I agree let them out on bail and let them run back to their own kind. The authorities can then seize all assets, monetary, property and cancel their passport.

ETA While any suspects linked to child rape and grooming are in custody, the HO should be able to freeze their accounts etc to stop a well funded escape back to Pakistan.
 
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Some good Yorkshire names among this lot:

Those charged are:
Asif Ali (50) of Batley charged with rape offences (x12), inciting sexual activity with a child (x2), supply class B drugs (X1), trafficking (X1), aiding and abetting rape (x1) assisting in the commission of an indictable offence (x1) making an indecent photo of a child (x2), possession of extreme pornographic images (x1).

Amer Ali Hussain (42) of Batley charged with rape (x2)

Sarfraz Miraf – (45) of Dewsbury charged with rape offences (x1).

Nazam Hussain – (43) of Dewsbury, charged with rape offences (x4)

Mohammed Nazam Nasser (35) of Batley, charged with rape offences (x3).

Moshin Nadat (35) from Batley, served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x2) t

Michael Birkenshaw (34) from Wakefield served with a postal requisition for rape (x1)

Zafar Qayum (41) from Dewsbury charged with rape offences ( x17), gross indecency ( x4), indecent assault ( x9) assault ( X1) sexual activity with a child (x1) sexual assault (x1) theft (x1) and aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Jabbar Qayum (39) from Dewsbury, charged with rape offences (x6) and aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Ansar Mahmood Qayum (43) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x13), attempted indecent assault (x2), aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Mohammed Tauseef Hanif (36) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences ( x4) Bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court at 3pm on 14/12/20

Ali Hussain Shah (35) from Dewsbury. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x2)

Saleem Mohammed Nasir (44) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x3) and conspiracy to rape (x1).

Amran Mehrban (37) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x2), false imprisonment (x1) and sexual assault (x1)

Ebrahim Pandor (41) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x1) and trafficking (x2)

Shakil Daji (41) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x2) and trafficking (x1)

Mohammed Imran Zada (41) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x6), indecent assault ( x2) and sexual activity with a child (x1)

Sarkaut Yasen (35) from Dewsbury. Charged with trafficking (x1) and aiding and abetting rape (x2).

Amjad Hussain (41) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences ( x2). Bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court 10am on 11/12/20

Asuk Hussain (50) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape (x2) and bailed to appear at Kirklees Magistrates Court at 10am on 14/12/20

Zafar Iqbal (35) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x7) trafficking (x2) and supplying a Class B drug (x1)

Nasar Iqbal (35) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x7) and trafficking (x2)

Bilal Mahmood Patel (38) from Leicester. Charged with rape offences (x2)

Khurum Raziq (38) from Heckmondwike. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x8)

Irfan Khan (34) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x4) threats to kill (x1) false imprisonment (x1) and harassment (x1)

Omar Farooq Hussain (36) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x8) supplying class A drugs (x1)

Sarfraz Hussain Riaz (37) from Liversedge. Charged with rape offences (x2) and attempted rape ( x1) and bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court at 11am on 14/12/20.

Rameez Cheema (33) from Batley. Charged with rape offences (x1) and bailed to Kirklees Magistrates Court at 11am on 14/12/20

Nasar Hussain (42) from Dewsbury. Charged with rape offences (x6)

Mohammed Chothia (41) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x8)

Sajad Hussain (37) from Batley. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x1), false imprisonment (x1) trafficking (x1), aiding and abetting rape (x1) and supplying Class C drugs (x1)

Yasser Ali (31) from Dewsbury. Served with a postal requisition for rape offences (x2)

When situations such as the above are repeated endlessly, how is it possible not to racially profile?
 
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LB Harrow council back in the 2000s used a software package to ferret out fraudulent benefit claims. Iirc it was done by listening to people's voices on the phone to the benefits office and flagging likely signs of lying.

Also iirc the fraud rate was found to "only" be 2%.

The problem is benefits are too generous as well as easy to game. The part of the UK budget going on "Social Protection" is £285 Billion. That's benefits and public sector pensions. That's 31% of the overall budget and I'm sure back in the 80s it was about 21%. It will eat the rest of the budget at that rate, but the Cameron govt U-turned on every attempt to cut bennies after a storm of media-confected outrage.

I'm not sure from where those figures were sourced but, in any case, why have benefits and public service pensions been lumped together and what are the relative proportions? They are two entirely different things.
 

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