Rochdale Sexual Abuse Trial

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  1. Well, no surprises really. This is what happens when a repressed (and repressive) culture with a complete disdain for 'kufr' comes into contact with the product of a feckless, dissolute and chaotic white underclass.

    Matters apparently made a lot worse by a criminal justice system that is in total denial and is immobilised into inactivity for fear of being branded racist. Even faced with the facts and the statistics of which they are normally so enamoured, they continue to refuse to acknowledge that a very considerable problem exists.
     
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  2. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    These charmers were from Edinburgh. Dont recall anybody blaming the entire Jock culture and nation?

    A paedophile gang that carried out a series of attacks on children and infants, including a three-month-old baby, were found guilty yesterday at the High Court in Edinburgh in a groundbreaking legal case.


    The abusers, including a respected youth leader — who had met Tony Blair and the Queen — a civil servant, a bank clerk and a Church of Scotland elder, were part of the largest paedophile network to have been dismantled in Scotland.

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  3. Mohammed Shafiq of the Ramadhan Foundation will be most relieved to hear that. You might be able to assure him that these people targeted only victims from the Pakistani community
     
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  4. It's what everyone was thinking though.
     
  5. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Nah, the Scots targeted the kids of family and friends. Not too many Pakistanis in the Church of Scotland. Paedophiles and groomers are opportunists. They are not bothered about race, hence the popularity of SE Asia, Cuba and places in South America where they can get away with it. The Manchester lot targeted young white girls because that was where their opportunity lay.

    You might want to contrast the wet statement of the Manchester top cop yesterday (cant really blame him since his and other forces have been battered with the racist stick) with the far more robust statements I read from the Pakistani community leaders - outright condemnation and revulsion. No playing of knee-jerk cards there.
     
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  6. First 19yrs jail
    Second 9yrs jail
     
  7. Public statements by police have been interesting in regard of this crime. They keep repeating that this "type" of crime does not have of necessity a racial element, which obviously it need not. That however ignores the fact that this particular collection of crimes carried out by these particular individuals quite obviously possess a strongly racial element. The fact that we are being served up industrial quantities of disinformation tends to indicate the degree of discomfort being suffered by our moral guardians.

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  8. It won't be the last of it

    Their Brief has just been on Radio 5 claiming that the jury was checked out to ensure no hard right connection. However on 3rd May Nick Griffin tweeted that 7 had been found guilty. At this point the jury was still deliberating and had not reported back to the Judge. However it was true that 7 had been found guilty at that point.

    So standby for unsafe convictions pleas to be upheld and these bastards going free, would not be surprised if they could successfully argue that their clients can't get a fair trail and the case gets dropped

    Either way Griffin and his source need to be done for Contempt of Court. The *****
     
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  9. Except for that lairy twat top right, they all seem to be gawping at the UK Dating ad. Does this mean that indeed "Prison Works"?
     
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  10. So we use that to ignore the race element altogether?

    One paedophile is as repulsive as the next regardless of race or religion but we cannot pretend that there isn't a specific crime being commited because of race. The victims deserve better than it benig swept under the carpet. Again
     
  11. The meeja say the trial judge investigated these claims at the time and dismissed them. Twitter is real time and it was brought to his attention quite quickly after it went out. The jury were still in the jury room and had their electrical devices removed from their persons.

    Griffin made a lucky guess still doesn't excuse what he did though and your right he is still a ****....
     
  12. There is obviously a cultural element at play here, as something like 80+% of grooming 'gangs' are asian. I don't believe its fair to brand it as religious though, islam doesn't encourage men to rape underage girls, these men were rapists and paedophiles who happened to be muslims, not rapists and paedophiles because they were muslims.

    These men are part of a subsection of their community who viewed young vulnerable women as 'slags' and 'easy meat'. Not all their victims where white so I would suggest they were targetting the esiest group they could gain regular contact with, for no other reason than because they were vulnerable, not because they were white or 'non muslim'
     
  13. the_boy_syrup

    the_boy_syrup LE Book Reviewer

  14. You mean Mohammed not Allah.

    Also the marrying of young girls to old men was something that was completely acceptable during that period, not just in Arab cultures but in European ones as well.

    Your quite correct that we now consider that to be morally wrong and illegal. However judging historical events by modern standards is always misleading at best.

    No respected muslim clerics teach that that kind of behaviour is acceptable in the modern age.

    Henry V ordered all prisoners to be executed at the battle of Agincourt, would we allow that in Helmand today? However at the time, nobody criticised him for his decision, not even the French.


    The 'Mohammed was a paedophile' argument is a meaningless straw man.
     
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