Rochdale Grooming Gang

#1
The report on the failures of Both Police and Social Workers in dealing with this seems to be pulling its punches as to why they chose not to act.

Cant but help get the feeling the fear of being accused of being a racist led to many looking the other way Others may know better?
 
#3
Well, some years before this all became very public C4 were going to show a documentary about it and the police got it stopped. I do recall talk of community relations being an issue. Whether it was to do with investigations who knows but nothing was actually done until some years later.
 
#5
Well community relations does have something to do with it whether anyone likes it ir not.

I remember on here when they when the gang hit the headlines people were jumping up and down - bloody muslims etc etc which presumably was the predictable reaction plod were trying to tiptoe around happening in real life.

This influx of muslim immigrants is all new to everyone and although they definitely got it wrong in this case there is no DS sheet saying how to do it properly, it's a question of working it out on the spot.

As for pies, 3.142 etc.....
 
#7
It was a racist crime committed by 9 Muslims on at least eight Christian girls.If they had groomed and abused Muslim girls they would have had their balls cut of by the community.At least one of the girls was known to be only 10yrs old.Bastards the lot.
 
#9
If they'd been teachers instead of Mussies half this site would be up in arms.
 
#11
If they'd been teachers instead of Mussies half this site would be up in arms.
No some of us here realise that the age of consent in this country is 16 and anyone under that age is a child . I'm also guessing the cops done bugger all because the victims in question were " chav scum " and how often does that phrase get thrown around here ?
 
#12
Until the CPS/Social Services/ and especially Plod ...... persue the letter of the law without fear or favour [not pandering to a minority of any colour/religious persuasion] then there will always be problems of this sort.
 

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#13
It was several gangs of "Men of Pakistani Origin" - along with 1 x Afghan illegal immigrant. There were no Sikhs, Hindus, Nepalis, Bengalis, Sri Lankans, or even Indian Muslims involved (there's more Muslims in India than in Pakistan, oddly enough).

Conclusion? Nothing to do with religion - but EVERYTHING to do with stone-age barbaric customs and a way of life (I won't call it a 'culture' - there's more culture in a yoghurt) that denigrates and abuses women.
 
#14
It was several gangs of "Men of Pakistani Origin" - along with 1 x Afghan illegal immigrant. There were no Sikhs, Hindus, Nepalis, Bengalis, Sri Lankans, or even Indian Muslims involved (there's more Muslims in India than in Pakistan, oddly enough).

Conclusion? Nothing to do with religion - but EVERYTHING to do with stone-age barbaric customs and a way of life (I won't call it a 'culture' - there's more culture in a yoghurt) that denigrates and abuses women.

What he said, and don't eat kebabs in Blackpool unless you're sure white girl is halal.

Missing girl's body 'put into kebab' - Telegraph
 
#15
Anybody want to bet that the repercusions won't go any further than a statement about "Lesson's learnt...."

There are Police Officers and social workers who should be going to jail for their wilful neglect of their duty.
Their duty to protect children, lets cut the Chav bullshit.
Whoever decided that these children had made a lifestyle choice should not just be sacked but be arrested for assisting paedophiles to abuse children.


Police and social workers gave a green light to child abuse by deciding it was the fault of the victims and ignoring it for years.
 
#16
It was several gangs of "Men of Pakistani Origin" - along with 1 x Afghan illegal immigrant. There were no Sikhs, Hindus, Nepalis, Bengalis, Sri Lankans, or even Indian Muslims involved (there's more Muslims in India than in Pakistan, oddly enough).

Conclusion? Nothing to do with religion - but EVERYTHING to do with stone-age barbaric customs and a way of life (I won't call it a 'culture' - there's more culture in a yoghurt) that denigrates and abuses women.
No offence snowey but that's bullshit

8 per cent of India is Muslim so that's 80 million muslims . Pakistan has a population of 180 million

Secondly if you've been to India I take it you've only been to metropolitan , relatively secular western looking cities . I spent the sping in the small towns and villages of Himachal Pradesh and there's little difference between how muslims and hindus treat their women . It's common for hindu men to batter **** out of their wife and make her sleep in a cow shed if she's on her period . A hindi widow has to spend her life pious and celibate - the same rule doesn't apply to a widower , and ask any white woman how she gets treated by local Indian hindu men in places like this - she's seen as a piece of meat . There's no difference between a hindu bastard and a muslim bastard in this respect

The reason Indians in Britain don't have a reputation is because Indians here are middle class , educated and most importantly secular unlike people of Pakistani descent living in Britain

Religion should be brought up since it's the worst thing humanity has invented
 
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#17
No offence snowey but that's bullshit

8 per cent of India is Muslim so that's 80 million muslims . Pakistan has a population of 180 million

Secondly if you've been to India I take it you've only been to metropolitan , relatively secular western looking cities . I spent the sping in the small towns and villages of Himachal Pradesh and there's little difference between how muslims and hindus treat their women . It's common for hindu men to batter **** out of their wife and make her sleep in a cow shed if she's on her period . A hindi widow has to spend her life pious and celibate - the same rule doesn't apply to a widower , and ask any white woman how she gets treated by local Indian hindu men in places like this - she's seen as a piece of meat . There's no difference between a hindu bastard and a muslim bastard in this respect

The reason Indians in Britain don't have a reputation is because Indians here are middle class , educated and most importantly secular unlike people of Pakistani descent living in Britain

Religion should be brought up since it's the worst thing humanity has invented
Only the "wrong" one son, less of the wishy washy liberal moral equivalence if you don't mind...
 
#18
Some years ago I encountered a couple of schoolteachers from that area, who were very worked up at what they said was the refusal of Police and SS to investigate what they described as blatant grooming and sexual abuse; they ascribed this refusal to what they called Political Correctness and an unwillingness to 'demonise' or 'offend' the 'community'.

At the time I decided that they'd spent too much time reading the Daily Mail, and as a result were suffering delusions about duskies having their wicked way with 'white girls'.
 

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#19
Spanny -
Re: numbers of Muslims in the Indian sub-continent.

Both India and Pakistan have, officially, around 180m Muslims - and the view from the Indian Govt chap I talked to recently is that the Pak numbers are inflated, and the Indian numbers deflated, for political reasons in both cases. So, it is highly likley that there are more in India.
 
#20
Only the "wrong" one son, less of the wishy washy liberal moral equivalence if you don't mind...
No religion = no Operation Banner for starters

Okay fair enough Snowy wasn't trying to fall out with a moderate intelligent mod . I take it your Indian govt spokeman is a relatively secular guy ?

Really the only good thing to come out of my trip to India was it made me realise how secular Britain is ..... then Rochdale police and social services **** everything up
 

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