RMPs: Coming to an "Alcohol Disorder Zone" near you!

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by Vegetius, Jun 9, 2005.

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  1. From the BBC website:

    Deliberately not posted in the RMP forum, because I want to know what everybody else thinks.

  2. Combined patrols were carried out in NI as part of process of getting RUC back on streets. Worked well. Such joint patrols also used to work well in foreign countries. When the world navies were building up in Gib for the Coronation, we would have patrols consisting os six or more nationalities - that was scary.
    As for UK - will work until provost guy does cock up or looks as if he/she has cocked up. It will then get spun into major disaster by the meeja.
  3. This is being debated on "current affairs" chaps....
  4. More sport. looking forward to it.......
  5. Sticky legal wicket. RMP are not and do not have the powers of a constable, howecer much they like to think so.
  6. Suppose it saves money on hiring more 'Speshail Constables'

    But as stated, they do not have powers of arrest over Civvies,
  7. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    It is about time that a decent taxi service should be in place.
  8. However, RMP can make a Citizens Arrest, just as can any other member of the British Public, whilst waiting for the Peelers to arrive.
  9. Only for serious offences, Not for the like of Smoking a spliff or pissing in an alley.
  10. Civvies must be laughing.
    RMP's round our way got called out to a fight involving 20-25 blokes. A mixture of squaddies & civvies. The RMP being very brave or very stupid sent 2 blokes. :lol:
    The civvies just got into their car and took the piss. Apparently it was very funny to watch.

    So in a civvy town they will probably get no respect at all.
    In my day if 3 of our blokes had got jumped whilst out on the town the following week we would've took the whole squadron up their and taught them some respect.
  11. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    RMP only sent 2 because they were waiting for TA reinforcements from Op Plod 2 to clear Chilwell.
  12. Doesn't the article say the RMP and Herts Police will be patrolling "jointly" (ie together)? The RMP will therefore be assisting a constable and problems regarding powers of arrest by RMP over civilians probably won't arise. Alternatively, they could swear-in the RMP as special constables (as happens in FI and Cyprus), which would give them full constabularly powers.

    At the very least, as has already been mentioned, the RMP will have civilian powers of arrest, which effectively means they can arrest for any arrestable offence (eg theft, criminal damage, serious assaults and woundings, some public order offences and more serious offences generally). An ordinary person also has a general power of arrest for 'breach of the peace', which covers a multitude of situations.

    However this scheme pans out, it's unlikely to fail from a legal standpoint.
  13. Its hard enough to get our Monkeys to turn up at a ruck in the local NAAFI. I suppose if we let them make out that they are real policemen they may take more of an interest.
  14. Oi Braindrain, If silly little toy soldiers could handle their beer like men and not boys then there would not be a need for the Monkey's to turn up and sort out their petty little handbag fights that they (you?) have would there?

    As said before the RMP will exercise their powers of arrest as per the norm with servicemen, however, if called to assist by a civil police officer then they can assist in effecting an arrest with civvies also, due to the fact they (RMP) are Home Office trained in the baton and cuffs, they would be entitled to use them if the need arose. Hope this clears it up now.
  15. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    Bit of a pointless argument M-M.

    For the monkeys to catch anyone they HAVE to be pissed and find difficulty in walking. Anyone in the upright position and looking as though they can handle themselves are left alone.

    Unless things have changed drastically over the centuries monkeys could not even catch a cold.