RIP Chris Harman

#1
Sadly, Chris Harman died on 7 November in Cairo, while lecturing there. I met Chris on a number of occasions through the years and he was a marvellous and extremely clear-headed and erudite fella. A great loss indeed for the Socialist movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Harman

I have all of his books, but three I’d especially recommend for those interested in Socialism are: “Russia: from workers' state to state capitalism”, “A People's History of the World” and his last book: “Zombie Capitalism: Global Crisis and the Relevance of Marx”

MsG
 
#3
Maggie Thatcher: "Eventually, Socialists run out of other peoples' money [to spend]."
 
#4
Lefty: "There's one problem with Socialists.....they're all cnuts"
 
#7
Why is the death of a Red Civvy on here? Can we get this binned. This is not the forum or place for mourning the death of lets face it, a radical left wing pinko fag subversive(apologies to Kenny Everett)
 
#8
Ispeakcrabandpongo said:
Why is the death of a Red Civvy on here? Can we get this binned. This is not the forum or place for mourning the death of lets face it, a radical left wing pinko fag subversive(apologies to Kenny Everett)
So who made you spokesperson for the 50,000-odd members of ARRSE, then? There's nothing at all "subversive" about being a Socialist, although the Capitalists spend an awful lot of time grinding out such clap-trap.

Chris Harman (along with Tony Cliff, Paul Foot and many others) was instrumental in freeing the notion of Socialism in the UK from all the unnecessary, pseudo-intellectual ballast it had accumulated and making it accessible to normal folks like you and me. His reasoning was that Socialism is meant to be a way of life for the Josephines and Joes on the street, but that can't happen unless it's understandable for them and presented in a way with which they can equate.

You should try reading some of Chris's excellent books sometimes - or get somebody to read them to you. :)

I, for one, very much regret his passing.

MsG
 
#9
Chris Harman (along with Tony Cliff, Paul Foot and many others) was instrumental in freeing the notion of Socialism in the UK from all the unnecessary, pseudo-intellectual ballast it had accumulated and making it accessible to normal folks like you and me. His reasoning was that Socialism is meant to be a way of life for the Josephines and Joes on the street, but that can't happen unless it's understandable for them and presented in a way with which they can equate.

You should try reading some of Chris's excellent books sometimes - or get somebody to read them to you. :)

I, for one, very much regret his passing.

MsG[/quote]

My bold.

........which is why Socialism is the most supported political coda in the UK.

Oops. My bad.


No. It is'nt.
 
#10
Bugsy said:
Ispeakcrabandpongo said:
Why is the death of a Red Civvy on here? Can we get this binned. This is not the forum or place for mourning the death of lets face it, a radical left wing pinko fag subversive(apologies to Kenny Everett)
So who made you spokesperson for the 50,000-odd members of ARRSE, then? There's nothing at all "subversive" about being a Socialist, although the Capitalists spend an awful lot of time grinding out such clap-trap.

Chris Harman (along with Tony Cliff, Paul Foot and many others) was instrumental in freeing the notion of Socialism in the UK from all the unnecessary, pseudo-intellectual ballast it had accumulated and making it accessible to normal folks like you and me. His reasoning was that Socialism is meant to be a way of life for the Josephines and Joes on the street, but that can't happen unless it's understandable for them and presented in a way with which they can equate.

You should try reading some of Chris's excellent books sometimes - or get somebody to read them to you. :)

I, for one, very much regret his passing.

MsG
Didn't somebody tell you fuck off already? We've had enough so-called Socialism to last us a very, very long time.
 
#12
DeltaDog said:
Didn't somebody tell you fuck off already? We've had enough so-called Socialism to last us a very, very long time.
Would that be the royal "we", then? And were exactly did *cough* "we" have this "Socialism", gobshite-features?

Either you came top of your Ignorance Course, or you're a natural talent. :)

MsG
 
#14
Chris Harman....a member of the Central Committee of the Socialist Workers Party.....so a complete and utter knobber with even less grip on reality than me.

I and the other 49,999 members of arrse rejoice at the news of his death.
 
#17
I'd rather see a tribute to the milions of victims who've perished under socialism. Did Harman have anything interesting to say about them or did he see them as a small price to pay in order to reach the Workers' Paradise?
 
#18
As a socialist and committed equal rights chap, I wait with bated breath to see how much the weasle has squirreled away for his offspring, if any, and which schools they went to.

The problem is I'm too poor to be a socialist.

Do what I say not as I do. Twot!
 
#19
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"The Irish revolutionary movement benefited greatly from Chris Harman’s advice and discussions. Less than year ago, he travelled to Dublin to address a day school on Marxist economics. He was a regular guest at the annual Marxism conference. For more than thirty years, he engaged with members of the Socialist Workers Party and its forerunner organisation in detailed discussions on strategy, tactics and ideas."

Its "Forerunner" was the OIRA from which it morphed.

I take it whilst in Dublin he did not attempt to snatch Sean Garland to answer his Extradition Warrant to USA ?

My only regret at its passing was that my hand wasn't at its throat.
 
#20
Stanley1975 said:
I'd rather see a tribute to the milions of victims who've perished under socialism. Did Harman have anything interesting to say about them or did he see them as a small price to pay in order to reach the Workers' Paradise?
I see we're back to the old grind again, Stanners! I suppose I could respond that just as many, if not far more, perished under Capitalism, or even Christianity, but if you really want to get an idea of just how scathing Chris Harman could be about what was euphemistically referred to as "Communism" or "Socialism", I recommend that you read his book: “Russia: from workers' state to state capitalism”, it's a real eye-opener, believe me, and could conceivably help you to truly understand when I say that it wasn't Socialism but State-Capitalism.

MsG
 

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