Rights groups say Apaches used for assassinations

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  1. This is a test and there is a prize for the best answer, judging will occur 06/08/06

    Q What is wrong the the following Guardian article?


    'Made in the UK, bringing devastation to Lebanon - the British parts in Israel's deadly attack helicopters

    · Key parts for Israeli aircraft made in UK
    · Rights groups say Apaches used for assassinations '

    British arms companies are supplying key parts for Israel's Apache combat helicopters, F-15 and F-16 fighter jets deployed in southern Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank despite government guidelines banning the sale of weapons likely to be used "aggressively against another country" or fuel regional tensions.

    The disclosure follows anger among MPs this week after it emerged that the government allowed US planes carrying bombs and missiles to Israel to refuel at Prestwick airport.

    British arms suppliers, including Smiths Industries and AgustaWestland, are among eight UK companies manufacturing components for Apaches ranging from power-management systems and parts for the rotor to helmet-mounted displays for the gunship operators.

    MPE, a Liverpool-based manufacturer, sells electromagnetic filters used in bomb racks put on all F-15 fighter jets and the model of F-16s used by Israel.

    Boeing, the sole supplier of Apaches, confirmed that the British-made components are included on all Apaches sent to Israel and a number of other countries.

    "There are over 6,000 parts in the Apache manufactured literally worldwide," said John Schibler, director of Apache engineering at Boeing. "The UK is one of the largest contributors, and these are only the major components made by British companies."

    The disclosures highlight weaknesses in British arms export controls days after the Foreign Office described the controls as "one of the most rigorous and transparent regimes in the world".

    British arms controls also forbid exports "to countries where serious violations of human rights have been established" or "if there is a clear risk that the proposed export might be used for internal repression". A Commons committee on arms export controls is expected to issue a strong statement on exports to Israel late next week despite pressure from some members to tone it down.

    "The government's policy on exports to Israel is incoherent," Roger Berry, the chairman of the committee, told the Guardian. "They are adamant that they would not licence exports - weapons, equipment or components - if they could end up being deployed aggressively in the Occupied Territories. But ... there are clearly lots of British components in arms being used by the Israeli government in the Occupied Territories."

    Israel was listed as a country of concern in last year's annual Foreign Office report on human rights and the government has said it would refuse arms export licences for any equipment that could be used aggressively by Israel. But F-16s, F-15s and Apaches have been used extensively by Israel in the recent attacks across Lebanon and Gaza, which have resulted in more than 500 civilian casualties to date. Last week Kim Howells, a Foreign Office minister, said the British embassy in Tel Aviv "has confirmed reports that Israel is using F16s in its incursions into Gaza and Lebanon".

    Apaches are alleged by human rights groups to have been used by Israel for extra judicial assassinations, missile strikes in heavily populated civilian areas and the shelling of schools, medical facilities, refugee camps and civil society buildings.

    "The Apache is not just equipment. For Palestinians it's a symbol of indiscriminate military violence," said Shawan Jabarin, general director of the Palestinian human rights group al-Haq. "From a young age every Palestinian child learns to distinguish the Apache's sound and associate it with assassinations, destruction and blood in the street."

    Mr Howells defended the British system of arms export controls earlier this week. "We are proud of our defence export licensing system, which is one of the most rigorous and transparent regimes in the world," he said.

    But arms control campaigners say the government makes little genuine effort to assess the final destinations of UK components and their use in human rights violations. Boeing provided the Guardian with data on the UK-originated parts in Apaches sent to Israel and eight other countries.

    Since the recent upsurge in violence in Gaza and Lebanon, MPs have criticised the government for allowing American planes transporting military equipment to Israel to refuel at UK airports. Amnesty International and the thinktank Saferworld have called on the government to immediately stop all arms sales to Israel.

    The Guardian contacted all of the British companies with parts in the Israeli Apaches. "We ensure that we follow the absolute letter of the law ..." said Dave Eldridge of Brimar, which manufactures helmet-mounted display systems for the Apaches. "But these components are commercially available worldwide. If British companies are prevented from supplying the Boeing Apaches because they'll get sent onwards to Israel is that going to stop them from being sent? Of course not, they'll just move on to other suppliers and it would make no difference beyond hurting British business."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/story/0,,1832922,00.html
     
  2. No idea though it reminded me about when the idf killed someone in a wheelchair with an apache made me laugh :D .






    Having worked in a nursing home anti wheelchair weapons seem a way to make the world a better place.
     
  3. 1. Apache with tube artillery? Now look, I know the Israelis go in for a robust approach to things, but really... (and when are the AAC fitting spare FH-70 to our airframes?)

    2. AgustaWe'rekeepingjobsinYeovil is, I think, not strictly speaking a British company any more. Owned entirely by Finmeccanica if I remember correctly.

    3.
    - Are you suggesting that there are Guardian articles which have something right with them? 8O
     
  4. Gods I love this - when the Israeli's go into places like Gaza and spread the love they get screamed at for indiscriminate killing and collective punishment, yet when they try to target specific people they get shouted at for assassinating people. Damned either way they play it.
     
  5. Whats the problem???. We happily bombed the fcuk out of 30,000 civilians in one night in Dresden. Aaah, total war, its not what it used to be.
     
  6. :D too true.

    Israel should give the ragheads a bucket of sunshine - after all that time they have spent hiding in the basements of their buildings (along with the Katushka launchers) they should be happy with a top-up of their tan :twisted:

    edited to add: ethanol is not much good as a spellcheck.
     
  7. May I suggest Tel Aviv?

    Lot of "ragheads" (what a quaint phrase) in der Juden Staat...
     
  8. Does the use of a 'smart bomb' against a specific target change bombing into an assassination?
     
  9. I am deeply disappointed

    I had visions of a CIA "Black Missions" Herc flying low over Northern Iraq with it's deadly load of Apache Braves nursing their Tomahawks in the back.

    Green Light is on, silently they turn and spring to their painted (hand prints in red) war ponies they gallop out of the back of the bird.

    The Pony parachutes deploy and the braves regroup on the lee of a sand dune. They done their rabit skin foot coverings and unwrap their bows.

    Whoooosh - An insurgent falls silently to the deadly arrow in his chest and before you can say "Quick Abdul circle the Toyotas" the braves overrun the block house and take out the principal with a well thrown tomahawk.

    Of course if you are going" noisy" use the sioux but if you need a fast and quiet job done then Johnny Apache is your only man.
     
  10. You dont, by any chance, work for the CIA do you???. If you don't, you should!
     

  11. Shawan Jabarin has clearly done his MA in propaganda at the Bradford Centre of Peace Studies.
     
  12. Don't they have an unfortunate tendency to yell "Geronimo" on the way down?
     
  13. Let me get this right:

    This chap doesn't have a problem with Britain having an arms industry per se, but if, shock horror, these arms should be used for their intended purpose he's outraged!

    What the fcuk does he expect other countries to use this stuff for, display purposes only? It's designed for killing people, don't be suprised when that's what it's used for...
     
  14. I was on Bulwark and lets just say some of those armaments came too close...