Rifles Hot or Not - Show us yer kit!

[stoatman]

Sitting chez my US exporter currently

 

[Themanwho]

Sitting chez my US exporter currently

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Is that yet another ropey AR18 locally manufactured in some third world sh1thole? You could have bought a FAL at least...

 

[stoatman]

Is that yet another ropey AR18 locally manufactured in some third world sh1thole? You could have bought a FAL at least...

I'll tell the Aussies you called Straya a third world Sh1thole....

I have a Proper FAL, made in Birmingham. Don't need anything like that out the US - there's far more interesting FAL's available on the Continong, and far cheaper too

 

[CptDanjou]

Sitting chez my US exporter currently

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I`m most impressed he can supply magazines ,Magpul have all but dried up lately with Septics panic buying.

 

[stoatman]

I`m most impressed he can supply magazines ,Magpul have all but dried up lately with Septics panic buying.

They came with the rifle

When they arrive I'll have zillions of STANAG ones.

 

[Themanwho]

I'll tell the Aussies you called Straya a third world Sh1thole....

Sorry, I didn't realise it was a secret.

 

[stoatman]

Sorry, I didn't realise it was a secret.

They like to pretend it's not...

 

[Goldbricker]

I'll tell the Aussies you called Straya a third world Sh1thole....

I have a Proper FAL, made in Birmingham. Don't need anything like that out the US - there's far more interesting FAL's available on the Continong, and far cheaper too

Pretty sure they know

 

[leveller]

Yep - it’s the only place I can see where you can get details of them - can’t find them on the web

When I go to the tip next, I'll check if there's a phone number on any of the signs.

 

[Simmerit]

When I go to the tip next, I'll check if there's a phone number on any of the signs.

i suspect we’ve seen the end of range shooting until after Easter....

 

[BaronBoy]

When I go to the tip next, I'll check if there's a phone number on any of the signs.

Yeah, but at least you can drink the water.

 

[ancienturion]

i suspect we’ve seen the end of range shooting until after Easter....

Personally I doubt it because that National Shooting Centre will be desperate to make more money at Bisley. I reckon they'll open as soon as it is defined as legal to be open.

 

[Simmerit]

Personally I doubt it because that National Shooting Centre will be desperate to make more money at Bisley. I reckon they'll open as soon as it is defined as legal to be open.

Totally agree. I didn’t get my point across very well in my post - I think we will be in lock down til April so they won’t be able to open.

 

[stoatman]

 

[stoatman]

So that's a full bells-and-whistles conversion - barrel, mag, extractor, charger guide, ejector mod. From the look of the mag, and the grease in the chamber, it looks like it's not been fired post conversion. Looking around, the Charnwood conversions seem to lack the ejector mod and the charger guide adapter (which is a solid thing bolted on, not the pressed bit of wriggly tin used by Enfield with L8's...)

Receiver's a Mk.1/2 Faz FTR, and isn't marked "Sterling".

 

[stoatman]

Had a bit more of a look over it:

- From the mag and feed ramp it's not been fired other than for proof.
- Stocking-up is a bit off but not drastic (not consistent down pressure and a little bit of touching to the right, will shoot before adjusting it in any case. Might try a cork shim as a poor man's centre bearing since there's quite a lot of leeway at the muzzle and the Canadian experience with the DCRA rifles shows light-barrel 7.62 No.4's shoot best centre bedded).
- The massive bolt-on charger guide is MUCH better than the wriggly tin pinned in Enfield one, and actually reaches to the nubs in the middle of a charger (although it is a bit on the tight side laterally).

 

[4(T)]

Charnwoods just relied on the Enfield mag to do the ejecting.

They are very hit and miss; I'm not sure they check-milled the receivers, or just picked rifles that the mags seemed to fit straight off.

It didn't help matters when Charnwood went on to make the repro Enfield mags which, although to the eye dimensionally correct, never seem to work well in any rifle.

 

[stoatman]

Charnwoods just relied on the Enfield mag to do the ejecting.

They are very hit and miss; I'm not sure they check-milled the receivers, or just picked rifles that the mags seemed to fit straight off.

It didn't help matters when Charnwood went on to make the repro Enfield mags which, although to the eye dimensionally correct, never seem to work well in any rifle.

I've seen pics of Charnwoods with the Sterling mag, like this one which I presume is just a barrel, Sterling mag and Enfield or Sterling extractor:

 

[stoatman]

So mine's either done by Sterling without the receiver being engraved (were they even all engraved?), or by a gunsmith who went the whole hog and did all the bells and whistles. Deffo not a Charnwood though from what I've seen of them (CO serial number, not all the bells and whistles).

 

[4(T)]

So mine's either done by Sterling without the receiver being engraved (were they even all engraved?), or by a gunsmith who went the whole hog and did all the bells and whistles. Deffo not a Charnwood though from what I've seen of them (CO serial number, not all the bells and whistles).

I've never seen what might be called a Sterling demonstration piece - a conversion with their factory marks.

Neither do any of the full conversions carry any sort of WD/MoD mark, as you'd expect if they had been done for trials.

However most of the full conversions I've seen were obviously on unused Mk1/2 upgraded rifles or - as with the one you've shown - rifles that were then refinished with pukka suncorite.

I'm guessing that a batch of the full conversions was done by a trade gunsmith at the order of Sterling, or as a commercial venture using the kits. Given the poor relations between Sterling and the MoD, I doubt the army touched any of the kits themselves.


The Charnwood rifles tend to be complete bitsas, whereas the Sterlings are usually based on a complete original rifle.