Rhodesia - Rhodesian Bush War

Back in the late 70s the Battalion was exercising in Sudan and about midway we had Adventure Training. The Pl Cmdr had the bonkers idea of going through the desert to Suakin in a couple of landrovers for those of us not quick enough off the mark to sign up for scuba diving or just about anything else but dying in the desert.
After several days of hell digging and tracking our way he relented and we started to head towards a pipeline and track that showed on the map. In the far distance we could see a building but it stayed a long way out of reach as we dug and shoved the rovers along in fine sand.
Eventually we saw movement by the building and a truck set out towards us. It was a Magirus-Deutz with, I'm sure. 8 wheel drive and it was driven by East German soldiers who gave our wagons a tow back to what turned out to be a pumping station/maintenance depot.
They turned out to be good eggs even though their boss and ours both behaved like standoffish pricks. That night the Pl Cmdr and Pl Sgt built a fire and gave a little "let bygones be bygones and it's been tough but what the hell" kind of speech, (because we were clearly unhappy teddy-bears.) So we built our own fire, broke out the Tuskers and shared them with our new DDR mates. After a couple of hours of sitting in lonely silence by their own fire the Pl Sgt ordered us to put out our fire and turn in.
The next morning we had all sneaked up a nearby Jebel and watched as our leaders had a melt down as they thought we'd done a bunk for freedom. A couple of the DDR lads were up early and wanted to come with us thinking that we were serious, (Germans hey).
I've often wondered what those East Germans made of their encounter with the British Army at its finest...
 
Back in the late 70s the Battalion was exercising in Sudan and about midway we had Adventure Training. The Pl Cmdr had the bonkers idea of going through the desert to Suakin in a couple of landrovers for those of us not quick enough off the mark to sign up for scuba diving or just about anything else but dying in the desert.
After several days of hell digging and tracking our way he relented and we started to head towards a pipeline and track that showed on the map. In the far distance we could see a building but it stayed a long way out of reach as we dug and shoved the rovers along in fine sand.
Eventually we saw movement by the building and a truck set out towards us. It was a Magirus-Deutz with, I'm sure. 8 wheel drive and it was driven by East German soldiers who gave our wagons a tow back to what turned out to be a pumping station/maintenance depot.
They turned out to be good eggs even though their boss and ours both behaved like standoffish pricks. That night the Pl Cmdr and Pl Sgt built a fire and gave a little "let bygones be bygones and it's been tough but what the hell" kind of speech, (because we were clearly unhappy teddy-bears.) So we built our own fire, broke out the Tuskers and shared them with our new DDR mates. After a couple of hours of sitting in lonely silence by their own fire the Pl Sgt ordered us to put out our fire and turn in.
The next morning we had all sneaked up a nearby Jebel and watched as our leaders had a melt down as they thought we'd done a bunk for freedom. A couple of the DDR lads were up early and wanted to come with us thinking that we were serious, (Germans hey).
I've often wondered what those East Germans made of their encounter with the British Army at its finest...
That's an epic tale mate. Was this 3 Para in 1976?
 
That's an epic tale mate. Was this 3 Para in 1976?
No mate - 1 Gren Gds about 1977 IIRC. I've already crashed a great topic by using a thin link to DDR soldiers in Africa. Heaven forbid I libel the Airborne too.
 

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Cheers. Thought they were both captured. I seem to recall seeing pics of the two of them, but probably wrong on that score.

Thought he was a WO advisor/signals/int type. Colonel is pretty high ranking to be risking where the Boere are cruising.
 

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Cheers. Thought they were both captured. I seem to recall seeing pics of the two of them, but probably wrong on that score.

Thought he was a WO advisor/signals/int type. Colonel is pretty high ranking to be risking where the Boere are cruising.
Now you mention photos something stirs in the recesses of my mind. Possibly another capture ?
 
Close to 40 years ago. Memories are long gone and the spiders have taken up residence in the empty attic.
 
Cheers. Always good to get confirmation, even if our memories are full of beer can shaped holes.

Might have been the wife who was a colonel.
 

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After indaba with Sa'Majoor, he recalls a very recently widowered Sov (Kazakhstani) WO Pestretsov taken outside N'Giva under Ops Protea.
As @Koschei said, two Soviet Lt Cols in FAA uniform and a second white woman also killed in the contact.

While Pestretsov was captured in Sov uniform he wasn't actually a POW as we weren't (officially) at war with the Soviet Union.
Don't you love nuances in wars on your doorstep ?
 
After indaba with Sa'Majoor, he recalls a very recently widowered Sov (Kazakhstani) WO Pestretsov taken outside N'Giva under Ops Protea.
As @Koschei said, two Soviet Lt Cols in FAA uniform and a second white woman also killed in the contact.

While Pestretsov was captured in Sov uniform he wasn't actually a POW as we weren't (officially) at war with the Soviet Union.
Don't you love nuances in wars on your doorstep ?
Operation Protea.

Wiki confirms that two civilian women were killed, one of whom was the wife of WO Pestretsov. I remember reading the story in 'Soldier of Fortune' magazine which was very popular amongst the squaddy literary fraternaty at the time before it started going moonhowler afer WACO in 1993. Al Venters articles on SW Africa and Angola with the SADF were about the only non biased reports from the west.
 

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Wikipedia is randomly accurate and variable.
The idea that knowledge from around the world could be concentrated in one spot by the self-editing general population was simultaneously laudable and mind-bogglingly naive.

Because the content may be edited by anyone with internet access, it's veracity depends on the latest visitor's political leanings and degree of knowledge of the pertinent facts.
The rules for editing are ridiculous and the self appointed "moderators" so far up their own leftist hoops that they truly believe it to be a reflection of reality, or if not then it will eventually be accepted as such.
[viz. die große Lüge]

Apart from that it's a fantastic resource and should be accepted as the benchmark by which all research is judged.
 

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