RG8 - The Inflexibility

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  1. Yes, It needs more flexibility

  2. Yes

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  3. I wouldn't know / No Indirect experience with them

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  4. No

  1. I've recently been told that my RG8 was refused on the grounds that I've got Aspergers Syndrome. Now, I'm a pretty capable soldier, I've done everything asked of me and more. I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome quite late - when I was 13. What they saw, I believe was just my rebellious teenage years.

    Now, When my RG8 was sent off to Glencorse, It seems that the refusal process is just keyword based, without taking an individual into account. Surely with the army wanting to recruit approx 20 000 new TA Soldiers by 2020, the system needs to be more flexible?

    If it's the handling of pressure the army is scared of - I work on civvy street. I handle a lot of pressure from day to day, managing people and projects.

    Does anybody have any advice for somebody in my position?
  2. Get a second opinion from another doctor asap.
  3. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    Yes, take up another hobby.

    Whatever you believe the underlying causes to be, your diagnosis (as made by a medical professional) is for a condition which is a bar to entry.

    Why your RG8 was being reviewed by the BK and BC is another matter as it should be medical in confidence and reviewed by the team at Glencorse, not every man jack in your unit.
  4. Hey BratMedic, I'm attempting to do that at the moment, but as it is my current doctor wrote on her notes that the diagnosis of Aspergers Syndrome isn't something that should be taken into consideration due to the fact that I'm so able. I am attempting to contact the Dr that diagnosed my originally, who is, I believe, the UK's leading Dr On People on the Autistic Spectrum. But he's a nightmare to get hold of.

    Thanks for your reply though.

  5. Hey there The_Duke,

    This is my Hobby, Outside of the army I'm already a Skydiver and a Scuba Diver. I wanted to tell them the contents of my RG8 to allow them to understand the situation more, I have nothing to hide. The letter was sealed when I got it, but the RG8 process is completely new, and some understanding for the senior ranks would be very helpful.
  6. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator


    The RG8 process isn't completely new - only the fact that they are sent to Glencorse to be reviewed centrally is. Prior to that it would have been reviewed by your unit medical officer or a contracted GP, and the answer would have been the same.

    The response from the system is correct given the contents of your RG8. Whether your RG8 is an accurate reflection of your medical condition is a subject for discussion between you and the various people who have treated and diagnosed you, not the army.
  7. Your welcome. Is your current doctor aware that it is not her that makes the rules and what is, and is not, a bar to your recruitment? Keep battering away at it, I hope you get there in the end.
  8. The_Duke,

    The RG8 process being present for the TA, as far as I'm aware is a new process. If I were fully trained before the introduction of the RG8 process, I'd be fine, and this process would not have touched me in the slightest.

    I wholly believe you are wrong. The fact that my RG8 mentions that I've been diagnosed something with is a keyword that decides somebody's military future is ridiculous, especially given that The Autistic Spectrum is so vast and if everybody were looked at, a majority of people would be found to have traits of Autism, and therefore subject to a diagnosis.

    Since I was diagnosed, I was told I should not expect to work full time, nor to expect to have a relationship or move out. I have done all of those, quite successfully, maybe even better than those without a diagnosis.

    I've seen at least 10 people in my Battery be refused into the Army through the RG8 process also, some for minor things that in all due respect to Glencorse's "specialists" should be looked into further instead of taking a keyword and initially putting down the hammer onto a SuT's career.
  9. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    If you wholly believe me to be wrong based on your TARS weekend and a few days turning up at a TA centre, then who am I to argue with such experience. Everyone from the leading expert in Autism (according to you) through to the army recruitment doctors are all wrong too. You are clearly a massive loss to the military
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  10. You should change your Forum name immediately ( assuming its not a pseudonym.)

    You'll not be thanked for broadcasting this and the whole world will now know you're on the Autistic spectrum.
  11. PS - DN-D - you should take The_Duke's word in this.

    He is sufficiently high up the food chain to know what he is talking about.

    Its shitty but thats the way it is.

    PS can you help me with some open source CMS? ;-)
  12. I'm Hoping an appeal with see me back in the army, But at the moment that's all I really have, I was really looking to see if people had any advice in regards to the appeals process, etc.

    Thanks though all.
  13. I was given an inhaler 2 years ago as a precaution to a chest infection. Although through childhood it was mentioned I might have mild asthma I was never tested or officially diagnosed and believed I was just prone chest infections and colds during the winter.

    I have been deferred for 2 years and I am considering an appeal, if anyone has been through anything similar I would appreciate your advice.
  14. In today's economic climate employment is a buyers' market.
    The Armed Services, like all other employers, are able to be very choosy when looking for recruits.
    It doesn't take much to get a knock back and I believe selection will get harder.
    Gone are the (my) days, when you turned up at the recruiting office and getting accepted was a given.
  15. Obviously the Opening Poster is correct and an expert on Service life and the effects of that life on medical conditions.

    It's a good job we don't have an occupational health team with years of military medical experience of working along side soldiers come up with policy about who is suitable and who isn't.

    It's all just done on a fag packet, no thought goes into it whatsoever, and we take pleasure in turning people away.

    Good luck with your appeal but I'd humbly suggest that you consider that the Army do things a certain way for good reason, you are not the subject matter expert.

    [Also since you can't comprehend PERSEC you are not the super-soldier you think you are]
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