RFA Support Vessels

I'm wary of the term "punching above our weight" as though doing more with less is a wise thing.
It often equates to "gets murdered in the third round by the gorilla and dies "
"Best in class and wise enough to stay in it" is a better thing imho.
 

endure

GCM
Is it recognised as civillian in the manner the RFA is in terms of port visits etc?

It employs 9,800 people 88% of whom are civilians. It's ships are designated USNS (United States Naval Ship) rather than USN as they are not commissioned into the USN.

Its ships occasionally carry military personnel in the same way that the RFA do.
 
And yet, the Officers, all professional and fully certified mariners, do stuff like the PWO’s course and all that other good military stuff.
Im well aware of the RFAs utility and I completely agree.

But isnt it irritating when you do have the knowledge experience and facts and yet some tedious feckwit refuses to listen and keeps pontificating - when its clear to all he knows nothing about what hes talking and pisses all over a perfectly good thread.
 
To everyone else I apologise for my afformentioned feckwittery

Theres a few posts i shall remove rather than cause offence to anyone.
 

PhotEx

On ROPS
On ROPs
Im well aware of the RFAs utility and I completely agree.

But isnt it irritating when you do have the knowledge experience and facts and yet some tedious feckwit refuses to listen and keeps pontificating - when its clear to all he knows nothing about what hes talking and pisses all over a perfectly good thread.

I’d assumed you’d been drinking...
 

PhotEx

On ROPS
On ROPs
It employs 9,800 people 88% of whom are civilians. It's ships are designated USNS (United States Naval Ship) rather than USN as they are not commissioned into the USN.

Its ships occasionally carry military personnel in the same way that the RFA do.

one notable difference is their VERTREP helicopters are supplied and manned by a civilian firm.
 
Im well aware of the RFAs utility and I completely agree.

But isnt it irritating when you do have the knowledge experience and facts and yet some tedious feckwit refuses to listen and keeps pontificating - when its clear to all he knows nothing about what hes talking and pisses all over a perfectly good thread.


I thought you had it at fast attack craft to be honest.......
 
RAS before Oil

The RN carried out some experiments of a rig like this in the during the period (1901). Although I think the French beat us to it in attempting it. But the concept was first mooted by a Lt Lowery RN in 1883.

Metcalfe_trial_1902.jpg
 

rampant

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
The RN carried out some experiments of a rig like this in the during the period (1901). Although I think the French beat us to it in attempting it. But the concept was first mooted by a Lt Lowery RN in 1883.

Metcalfe_trial_1902.jpg

Further down the thread someone recommends two books covering the process in detail

Tide at Sunrise
Short Victorious War

Apparently your average Russian matelot had an appalling existence
 
Further down the thread someone recommends two books covering the process in detail

Tide at Sunrise
Short Victorious War

Apparently your average Russian matelot had an appalling existence
Sounds like the general theme for all Russian lower ranks regardless of service! Por sods.

Cheers for the book suggestions.
 

rampant

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Time will tell whether anyone comes to the party this time around.

It's not like there are a huge amount of designs or uncommitted yards (with a workforce) out there in the timeframe., particularly given the constraints applied by HMG.
 

Fedaykin

Swinger
Agreed NaB, it is easy to say "Build in a British Yard" but if they are all busy or lack the facilities to do the work it does get problematic. I do think the wording used recently allows significant wiggle room for involvement from foreign yards.

I also wonder in a related matter what BAE Systems might be able to get out of the deal to build new FAC for the Ukrainian navy with build shifting to Mykolaiv, whilst the timing is probably wrong for FSS I do wonder what steel bashing could be done for BAE Systems in the Ukraine for UK contracts at the Nikolayev yard. Mykolayiv shipyard
 
I'm still curious who is going to build the Litoral Strike Ships.

And let's not start on what's happening with PCRF.

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