returning to the UK post tour

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by twosup, Oct 12, 2008.

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  1. I recently arrived back from Afghan after a 6 month tour. we landed at a civilian airport in the UK, along with most of the other flights from my Bde.

    We were not allowed inside the airport, and had to unload our baggage ourselves out on the apron of the runway in the dark and rain (no hassle really), but what is making my blood boil is that some week minded liberal idiot decided that our presence in uniform inside the airport may offend some local civilians. we did not even go through any customs.

    Conntrast this with the recent happeninngs at Wooton Bassett and the reception given to US troops upon their homecomings.

    I am more annoyed at the people that made this week decision than i would be at any potential protestators.

    What do others think? After the number of years that i have been in the Army, i shoudn't be suprised, but i am just annoyed at these week people.
     
  2. im sure the vast majority of the public would have no problem whatsoever with sharing a arrivals lounge with troops coming home, just another example of some friggin liberal jobsworth who in no way represents what the the public feel
     
  3. Someone in a position to make decisions decided he/she knows best what public wants. And got it wrong, as usual...
     
  4. Details please by PM - time, flight no, unit, location of airport. Back in MOD tomorrow so I'll need facts rather than opinion if you want something done but please bear in mind that there may have been mitigating circumstances (although they may not seem so to you!). :x
     
  5. Wasn't Birmingham by any chance? Similar thing happened to me coming back for RnR once as a jnr Capt. I was also - happily - the duty bod for ensuring all passengers arrived at destination safely. Can't remember the correct TLA, something like UPO?

    Anyway, I was faced with the choice of either doing what the RLC mover ( :x ) said and staying on the plane (the unpopular choice), or deplaning, and marching a bucketload of soldiers - with weapons - across an active runway and into a terminal which may have been locked against us. Chose the former, and my boss later said it was the right choice, but I still have a nagging feeling... :oops:

    Also on the same plane - 1 x Army Lt Col, 2 x Crab Wing Cos and a smattering of Majs. Not a sausage out of any of them! So much for support from the CoC. The flight arrival time was delayed by around 10 hours, and we had a couple of compassionates with us. :x :x

    I don't think any minorities would have been offended in the slightest - I think the primary concern was cowardice on the part of the airport. I reckon they didn't want themselves associated with the Army in case some of their frequent fliers (as per the demographic in Brum) got a bit cross.
     
  6. This has happened to us returning from H4, we were smuggled under cover of darkness, waited 2 hours on the plane before getting off etc, etc...Then 3 PARA came off in the day light hours, shite it was...welcome back anyway mate!
     
  7. I cant work out what youre more pished off about, the fact that you didnt get a heroes welcome with a band and everything or that you werent allowed to mix with the civvies at the airport.
    Very good of the people at Wooton Bassett to do what they have been doing, shows the kind of respect that is missing from most of the UK, however its not the home coming reception that most people would hope for.
     
  8. Bubbles - PM sent

    Rats - yes Birmingham

    Fox - the homecoming i wanted was with my wife and kids, no bands. i said clearly
    I am more annoyed at the people that made this week decision than i would be at any potential protestators.
    you are off track
     
  9. Speaking for myself, I couldn't care less about the marching bands etc. More upset about the delay in getting home, and the wastage of RnR time. Clearly the compassionates were also fcuked about. Why hold people on the plane until it gets dark? Why not have coaches ready to pick us up on the apron immediately after landing? The excuse given (to me, at least) was some sort of BS about passport control, although when we eventually arrived at Brize via coach, we were waved through the passport control station.

    the overall impression was one of knee-jerk-c0ck-up by the Movers, and anti-Army sentiment by the civvy airport, not of the well-oiled Airbridge machine that should be in place.
     
  10. A few points:

    It would be nice to see justice being done - or at least hear a report of it being done.

    Mitigating circumstances there may have been, but clearly Twosup did not get to hear of any at the time. Those meeting this return flight clearly didn't think to inform - and that is a demonstrable failure on their part. How many returning personnel do they wish to antagonise?
     
  11. Resend - no PM received.......................
     
  12. [/quote]Wasn't Birmingham by any chance? Similar thing happened to me coming back for RnR once as a jnr Capt. I was also - happily - the duty bod for ensuring all passengers arrived at destination safely. Can't remember the correct TLA, something like UPO?

    Anyway, I was faced with the choice of either doing what the RLC mover ( :x ) said and staying on the plane (the unpopular choice), or deplaning, and marching a bucketload of soldiers - with weapons - across an active runway and into a terminal which may have been locked against us. Chose the former, and my boss later said it was the right choice, but I still have a nagging feeling... :oops:

    Also on the same plane - 1 x Army Lt Col, 2 x Crab Wing Cos and a smattering of Majs. Not a sausage out of any of them! So much for support from the CoC. The flight arrival time was delayed by around 10 hours, and we had a couple of compassionates with us. :x :x

    I don't think any minorities would have been offended in the slightest - I think the primary concern was cowardice on the part of the airport. I reckon they didn't want themselves associated with the Army in case some of their frequent fliers (as per the demographic in Brum) got a bit cross.[/quote]


    No need for a nagging feeling - marching your men across an active runway would have been just a bit daft however you may have felt at the time.............
     
  13. I'll see what I can do - depends if my 2* is 'in'. If he is then heads will roll if required.
     
  14. having trouble with PM. i dont feel any of the following is sensitive though.

    we arrived in birmingham sat 04 Oct from Cyprus (decompression). on plane was Royal Irish and REME, sat on plane for one hour, not sure of flight no but could get it.

    be interested to hear of any info u can get.

    confident it was due to week managers though.
     
  15. I've lived in the USA for some considerable time so apart from a few short visits to the UK I'm a little out of touch with Brit public opinion vis a vis their Armed Forces (in my day it ranged from indifference through disdain - though never hatred - IRA supporters in Ireland and certain major mainland cities excepted). Why are 'minorities' feelings taken into account to the detriment of British service personnel? What do the 'majority' i.e. patriotic British people think? Why no protests by the 'majority' against the demands of the seditious minority? No wonder the British Army has a retention problem.

    That said - on returning from active service tours via civilian charter airlines (quite common in the 1960s after sea trooping ceased) - we would invariably arrive at a cordoned off terminal area in Gatwick or Heathrow, always in the middle of the night, to be confronted by hostile immigration officials (though back then - unlike two I saw at Heathrow last year none wore burqas) and surly Customs officials who would take sadistic delight in ripping the MOW's kit apart not in the least impressed we'd just returned from an operational tour - the Jocks would then be hustled out of the Airport environs lest they be seen by the public.

    I guess, then, nothing's changed!