Retired Servicemens Recognition Card

#2
Good CO,

Good post on a subject that raises its head in many circles.

So to be devils advocate - why pay £25 to get the card and £10 per year to keep it? How much does it cost to join the RBL?
Surely the RBL is the organsiation for all Ex Service personnel? (It is better known anyway)
Perhaps the RBL should provide this service and be recognised as the true Ex service persons organsiation?
I'm sure that all the Companies offering discounts etc on this website will equally offer the same discounts to someone producing an RBL card?
Who is/are the British Veterans Organsiation? Profit or non profit org?

My vote is with the RBL...
 
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one_flew_over

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#3
Why can't the MOD just give us a retirees card if it gets discount. That would be free and certainly clear up who is and isn't entitled. Other armys do it and look after retired service men and women. The army even takes the watch of you when you retire!
 
#4
These discounts are widely available and almost any group can access them. Many similar ones are in the Forces Discount Brochure and can be had by veterans as well as serving personnel.

I get similar deals as a member of the Countryside Alliance, and get to irritate soap-dodgers into the bargain!
 
#5
According to Companies House:

Date of Incorporation : 20/05/2003

New company, no accounts submitted, but clearly it's not a charity.
 
#6
In my experience, these 'discounts' aren't really up to much.

As an example, a few years ago, a mate of mine had hired a car through Hertz - he phoned up and asked for his forces discount and was told that he'd have to show his ID card when he collected the car. He paid his money (can't remember how much).

As it happened I needed to hire a car at the same time and was a little pissed off as I hadn't had the foresight to Pre-Book and claim the discount. I turned up at Hertz - asked for a deal and got the same class of car at a better price.

Now, Where's the logic in that.

I'm a great believer in 'if you don't ask, you don't get'

Always ask for a discount.

TTFN

BFG
 
#7
There is a company doing something fo rthe Police federations.

They call it the Police Platinum Card... business pay upto £1000 to feature in a mag giving discount to coppers and in return they get a discount card similar to that.

It sells very well and advertisers write checks to PPC (Police Platinum card.... Wrong... Its Plum Publications Co... who earned £2m last year.. great scam, only one winner
 

Cutaway

LE
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#8
one_flew_over said:
Why can't the MOD just give us a retirees card if it gets discount. That would be free and certainly clear up who is and isn't entitled. Other armys do it and look after retired service men and women. The army even takes the watch of you when you retire!
Because other armies, MODs and governments actually give a sh1t about their troops, both while serving and when they leave......
 

Ventress

LE
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#9
As an veteran- I would like the same as the Yanks get:

1. Keep your ID card, handy for using the gym.
2. Access to Camp Messes
3. Free Medical and Dental treatment.

We dont ask for much.
 
#10
Yes its amazing really. The Yanks really do seem to care about their servicemen and veterans and give their retired soldiers a fantastic range of packages. Tommy Atkins on the other hand is universally applauded by our politicians ('cos he seems to do everything he is asked to do with less and less resources) and yet once he leaves the system hardly wants to know him.
 

Mr Happy

LE
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#11
Solution: Simply lose your ID card two weeks before getting out, thus ensuring that you can use a chit in leau for the final two weeks and when de-kitting hand this in - thus allowing you to get out before the CO's fine tracks you down.

And then you can continue to use it at civvie locations for discounts.

Also, whilst the yanks get excellent pay and conditions back home they don't half get shite operations lasting 12 months or longer with no beer...
 
#12
Sorry to be a party pooper, but have a read of the back of your MOD F 90.

This is an official document.

The unauthorised possession, use, retention, alteration, destruction or transfer to another person is an offence.

...... and a bit more blurb


An offence against what is unclear (ie civil or military law) but I'm sure someone with more legal experience than me shall enlighten us.
 
#13
If an ID card was retained after someone had left, and then used to get a discount, the holder could be charged with obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception. It's also an offence to impersonate a member of the Armed Forces, though I'm not sure many people have been charged with this - the TA QAs certainly seem to get away with it!
 
#14
It should be no trouble if the will was there to issue a card. Make it the same as a MOD 90, but with an R for Retd. in front of the P number and stamped with a big R so that it cannot be used to get past the guard without your status being noted in case of an increased threat state, after all there are security implications.

Obviously, it should only be given to those who have left the service in good standing. After all, if you have reserve commitment (which most of us do in one form or another upto the age of 55) why shouldn't you have the benefits of the card?
 
#15
I don't think paying £25 for a discount card is a good idea.. in fact its a shite idea.

Just do what the reired Officers Bde do - refuse categorically to recognise that they are no longer serving, wear their Battle Dress or Red Tunics to work, insist on being called 'Sir', smell of piss, tell tall tales and say 'no' to any question.

I think we have some MP responsible for Veterans Affairs, so should he/ she/ it be looking into this? You spooks who are reading this, couldn't give the Veterans Affairs Minister a nudge in that direction? Ta
 
#16
Purple_Flash said:
It should be no trouble if the will was there to issue a card. Make it the same as a MOD 90, but with an R for Retd. in front of the P number and stamped with a big R so that it cannot be used to get past the guard without your status being noted in case of an increased threat state, after all there are security implications.

Obviously, it should only be given to those who have left the service in good standing. After all, if you have reserve commitment (which most of us do in one form or another upto the age of 55) why shouldn't you have the benefits of the card?
PF,

If it is too much trouble to allow TA officers (who are subject to military law at all times) to keep their MOD 90, then I can hardly see the authorities handing out cards to those who have left...

msr
 
#17
Thats what the Army Pensions Office and Records do. Stick an R in front of your Regimental Number, and track you with that!

Maybe not an MOD90 but some form of Retired Commitment Card would be nice! Instead of just printing an R, make it a differant colour...

On a differant note Sergeants & Officers Messes already have a limit of how many 'Retired' or 'Honouree' (who do not even have to be ex-services) members they will allow already!
 
#18
Get a tesco clubcard, has more discounts that any shat card dreamed up by a load of hasbeens/wannabees will ever get you.
 

ugly

LE
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#19
I agree with the ripper more people out here to take away your hard earned beer tokens than you could ever imagine. No one outside really wants to know, I have worked with guys for 10 years before finding out they were ex servicemen. The old National service boys are close to retirement and tattoos now mean nothing. Take care when you jump ship!
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#20
minister_doh_nut said:
There is a company doing something fo rthe Police federations.

They call it the Police Platinum Card... business pay upto ?1000 to feature in a mag giving discount to coppers and in return they get a discount card similar to that.

It sells very well and advertisers write checks to PPC (Police Platinum card.... Wrong... Its Plum Publications Co... who earned ?2m last year.. great scam, only one winner
Used to have one. They were pretty good actually. Absolutely loads of places recognised it. More than is available on the Forces Discout one. Felt a bit of a Pikey using it though.

I'm sure that as and when BAFF picks up speed, we'll have something similar as a bonus to memebrship.

How come this and the housing thingy are only making an appearance now? Are the MoD trying to get in before BAFF does?
 

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