Resignation of the Corps RSM

#1
So the Corps RSM has resigned! Does he know something we don't!!! :D

I have heard that his replacement is straight of the WO1 board? surely it should be a second tour post?

:wink:
 
#2
Not a subject worth going into but I will say this,

The RSM of 11 Sig Regt is now the Corp RSM as well. To be honest it makes sense anyway.

The new 11 Sig Regt (and Corp) RSM takes over this week.
 

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#3
Disco said:
The RSM of 11 Sig Regt is now the Corp RSM as well. To be honest it makes sense anyway.
What does the Corps RSM do, and why do we need one?

Is there any truth in the rumour that went round when Brig McDowell became SOinC(A) that he wanted to scrap the Corps RSM post, and replace it with an ADC?
 
#4
DangerMouse said:
Is there any truth in the rumour that went round when Brig McDowell became SOinC(A) that he wanted to scrap the Corps RSM post, and replace it with an ADC?
Sorry to dissapoint you DM! (I feel like Penfold!) The SOinC(A) isn't entitled to an ADC -only 3* and up get them (CinC LAND, AG, DCOMOPS etc).

Corps RSMs' (regardless of nomenclature) perform many useful and understated roles within the Directorate - in this case HQ SOinC(A). They are the 'voice of the soldiers' within the organisation, and sit on varied committees. They also drive the recruiting effort forward.

It's something of a poison chalice - most people don't see the point of it - and respect for the appointment suffers.

Odd that the RSignals have gone down the route of amalgamating 2 RSM posts into one - conflict of interest? (and a very, very busy lifestyle!!!)
 
#7
DangerMouse wrote:
Is there any truth in the rumour that went round when Brig McDowell became SOinC(A) that he wanted to scrap the Corps RSM post, and replace it with an ADC?
Please excuse my ignorance but what is an ADC ?
 
#8
ADC=Aide De Camp.

A junior officer (usually a junior Captain) who acts as his boss' tea boy; runs his diary; organises appointments; hold things etc.

Can be extremely advantageous to that young Captain's career - but attracts some very odd fish indeed!

All my chums who've done have thoroughly enjoyed it - for a while! :D
 
#11
The RA have an RASM, who is a Second Tour RSM and who has also been selected for commission. He, as somebody mentioned before, is the voice of the soldiers and is theright hand man of the Master Gunner.

He, and I thinkl most of the RA agree, is key. He esorts the MG on visits to units and finds out what is really happening down in the Sgts Mess whilst the MG is getting his RRSE licked by the colonel. With him being already selected for commission, he has nothing to prove as a WO1, so most senior officers will listen to him.

The only problem with the RS is the trades, ie, would a SSgt FoS look up to a Corps RSM??
 
#14
In the good old days (pre-Options etc etc), when we were a much larger Corps than currently, we didnt have a "Corps RSM". The post was created in the early/mid-nineties as we imploded and the SOinC(A) post became a 1* in line with all other Arms etc, in fact a very useful WO1 Superinteding Clerk post at RHQ R Signals was sacrificed to put this very useful piece of wood in place!.........progress eh!
 
#15
The_Sloping_Wire said:
ADC=Aide De Camp.

A junior officer (usually a junior Captain) who acts as his boss' tea boy; runs his diary; organises appointments; hold things etc.
Pretty much like an Adjutant really in respect of serving the CO!!
 
#16
Just for information..
Back in the good old days(?) the RSM of 11Sigs - The Depot Regiment at Catterick - was accepted as the Corps RSM. Selection for the post of 11 Sigs RSM was considered as being something special amongst RSM's.
It was not always a second tour WO1 who had the post, in fact second tour WO1's were fairly rare animals in those days.
 
#17
There are some well intentioned post here but, as with most topics a little knowledge is often dangerous.

ADCs are appointed to 2* officers in command and most, but not all 3* and above. GOCs, Comdt Sandhurst etc all have ADCs. They organise the non operational aspects of the General's life, diary, office, routine for the Generals staff etc.

The SOinC decided that he does not need a full time Corps RSM. When he visits a unit he wants to visit the Sgts' mess as much as he wants to visit the Offr' mess. However the big issue now is the that the quality of man we might want for Corps RSM is undoubtedly the type of man who will be commissioned. We are therefore unlikely to have a second tour RSM of the right quality. In addition if we delay the commission ( like the RA apparently do) it will affect seniority, conversion of commission and so on.

The current RSM 11 Sigs is also the Corps RSM for Corps functions within Blandford only. In this way he runs his mess ( not the farce previously seen whereby the Corps RSM had to let RSM 11 run the Blandford mess) and supports the SOinC when he needs it ( Morrison Cup , RSA weekend and so on). All in all the right solution in my view!!
 
#18
another failed scaleyback....no great loss, the Corps man management solution is "broke this one, indent for another".

Too many f%%%%wits per square inch in the Corps in the Offr Corps :(
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#20
How can someone resign, it's the Army...or have things changed that much since I was in ?
 

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