Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by PartTimePongo, May 14, 2007.
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Funny how quick they have been to turn on each other since Israel built the wall and made attacking their citizens more difficult eh?
The wall is around the area called the West Bank. These troubles are happening in Gaza which is next to Egypt, and not yet walled, tho' of course it may as well be, I suppose Razor wire is the next best thing
Meh... things have been just as exciting within the West Bank territory as well... just that Gaza is a bit friendlier to journalists at the moment and has been much easier to reach.
Didn't Egypt close that entry point they opened a couple months ago? Heard a statement that enough firepower to equip an infantry battalion came through there unchallanged in the first few hours alone.
You'd be amazed how easily the locals in that area can breach concertina... especially the bedouins in the Sinai, seen their wire crossing skills first hand and it's impressive (bad idea to leave choice items appearing to be ungaurded in one's observation post.)
Now obstacles under observation and covered with direct and indirect fires on the other hand...
Gaza fence exists, though it is not a concrete wall as in the West Bank and unlike it Gaza fence follows the border.
Yes, its a great outcome all round, isn't it?
I, for one, have no truck with the moaning minnies who try to suggest that this has anything to do with the widespread disaffection felt by many Muslims to the West, and the USA in particular, and thus the support for attacks on that nation - no siree. You just encourage those Israelis to keep right on kicking sorry Arab arse.
Someone's got to
Yeah, if it wasn't for Israel, the people in Gaza and the West bank wouldn't be fighting other! Fatah and Hamas would be great buddies otherwise, just like Shias and Sunnis, but that's our fault too.
Following the signing of the Anglo-Irish Treaty, a civil war erupted in Ireland between pro-treaty and anti-treaty factions. While the acceptance of the treaty was ratified by referendum, there was a large minority that continued to find the creation of Northern Ireland an unacceptable compromise. In 1922, the IRA was founded by members of the anti-treaty faction who had participated in the guerrilla war against the British, lost the civil war and continued to refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland.
some parallels, past, present, future, perhaps...
On Monday the antagonists organised another ceasefire
Early this morning Hamas attacked a training camp for the Presidential guard
As hinted at in one of the above articles I linked to - 500 Fatah policemen are recalled from Egypt where they were carrying out specialist training
Fatah and Hamas wouldn't exist were it not for the existance of Israel. Neither would Gaza and the West bank as now understood. Cornered people anywhere soon act like rats.
And don't think Israel doesn't like it just this very way.
Fathamas Whitbread and Gaza? Why is a Javelin throwing olympian trying to free a footballer from Israel?
I heard some Palestinian rent a mouth gobbing off on the BBC World Service that its all the wests fault for not giving them money to pay the bills and wages. How-fcuking-come its our fault?! Stop killing each other and start building an economy and earn their own bloody money. Barbarians the lot of them, lock them in until they can learn to play with the civilised nations of the earth.
Nothing more than an internal power struggle for power and influence - hence money - all dressed up as someone elses fault. Oh the poor repressed Palestinians. They really p1ss me off as they never have anything new to say and drag themselves down into the mud while whinging about how everyone else should be helping them. They had their chance and blew it in the 90's. W@nkers....
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