Reserves Review Think Pieces

#1
Have these been released yet?

msr
 
#3
Yes

Clogged up my PC about two weeks ago. I might get 'round to reading them at some point but they're a bit labour intensive.

I did read part of one about building TA Centres in Devon down the M5 because the population shift is in that direction....old people mainly - really useful! And there was one about using RFA more...

you've clearly not seen them then?
 
#4
The presenter at the last meeting I attended said they would be publishing some of them on the "team website" - but that some would only go to subject matter experts for comment. My response was that in that case they would be less likely to get unbiased or blue sky thinking.

My reading of the whole thing was that we'll only get to see the non contentious stuff anyway.

I can't find any reference to a team website and they did not answer the email I sent.....

anyone got a link ?
 
#5
a range of think pieces:

Maritime Reserve•National TA•Management Structure of TA•Integration•Regular/Reserve Balance •Career Management•RAF Reserve •Civilian Skills and Stabilisation•Footprint •Sponsored Reserve•Regular Reserve •Force Generation and Training•UK Ops•Purpose•Proposition•Gap Year/Short Service Engagement •RFCAs•Volunteer Estate•Cost Analysis and Benefits Capture •Terms and Conditions•Employer Support and welfare

from the second tour round ppt presentation:

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/E5290F3A-6D0A-4FA7-87C3-E0BC77D71615/0/regional_tourpt2.pdf
 
#6
#7
quiller said:
a range of think pieces:

Maritime Reserve•National TA•Management Structure of TA•Integration•Regular/Reserve Balance •Career Management•RAF Reserve •Civilian Skills and Stabilisation•Footprint •Sponsored Reserve•Regular Reserve •Force Generation and Training•UK Ops•Purpose•Proposition•Gap Year/Short Service Engagement •RFCAs•Volunteer Estate•Cost Analysis and Benefits Capture •Terms and Conditions•Employer Support and welfare

from the second tour round ppt presentation:

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/E5290F3A-6D0A-4FA7-87C3-E0BC77D71615/0/regional_tourpt2.pdf
Thanks Q, thats the link to their site and the recent presentation - but unless I'm being dim I don't see the "Think Pieces" ?
 
#8
it's all there is at the moment. i think that they may get sent out for a final discussion but when? i have no idea.
 
#9
quiller said:
it's all there is at the moment. i think that they may get sent out for a final discussion but when? i have no idea.
Think pieces being sent only to those already involved methinks. A bit like asking Bernard Matthews to proof-read the Christmas lunch menu....
 
#11
bibo_boy said:
Only just started to look into this... So what's the general thought on what will change?
Nothing really.

msr
 
#13
Not sure about that - had a bit of a scan since - how about getting rid of STA courses and trades and everyone training as infantry?
 
#14
Unless the review team can publish these so we can think about them, I shall continue to the treat the whole exercise with distain.

The trouble is that they are not speaking to the right people, as the thinking which got us into this situation is not the thinking which is going to get us out of it.

msr
 
#15
Nice stance, but you might regret it when they publish their findings and state that people had plenty of time to contribute to the Think Pieces....
 
#16
MrTracey said:
Nice stance, but you might regret it when they publish their findings and state that people had plenty of time to contribute to the Think Pieces....
I will to contribute to them as soon as THEY PUBLISH THE F**KING THINGS

Grrrr.

If they decide to take the TA in a direction with which I am not happy, my kit is already in a bin bag ready to launch over the TAC fence.

And I don't see a whole queue of people standing behind me to fill my vacancy.

msr
 
#17
msr said:
MrTracey said:
Nice stance, but you might regret it when they publish their findings and state that people had plenty of time to contribute to the Think Pieces....
I will to contribute to them as soon as THEY PUBLISH THE F**KING THINGS

Grrrr.

If they decide to take the TA in a direction with which I am not happy, my kit is already in a bin bag ready to launch over the TAC fence.

And I don't see a whole queue of people standing behind me to fill my vacancy.

msr
That's a mature argument from an apparent rupert. No sense in leading by example when one can have a tantrum eh?
 
#18
i had the misfortune to attend the strategic review of reserves brief about 2 months ago...poor presetation, poor analysis and answered very few questions. here's a few ideas:

The TA doesn't represent VFM. TA soldiers have been used as a sticking plaster soultion since 2003 their employment remains a sub-optimal solution. The resources they require is inversly disproportionate to the capability they provide.

Community Engagement is a regular forces task. The TA is not resourced nor has sufficient staff headroom (or experience) to comprehensively engage with the complex issue of community engagement. It has become a self-proficisizing urban-myth that the reserve forces provide a key link into wider society. One only has to observe major projects such as PAC to realise that regular forces give far more to the local community than Captain Mannering Big-Timing it at the water cooler.

TA career profiles and regimental structure. TA junior ranks and subalterns can be readily integrated and utilised within regular units, their is however little or no use for snr officers (less to champion the TA), WOs or SNCOs. Eg when did a TA CSM last deploy as a CSM? Regimental structures are little more than admin functions, a TA unit has neither the capability, experience or capacity to deploy as a formed unit within the construct of a unit in a formation.

Smart recuitment and trade skills. The TA is spectacularly bad at this, eg we have highly skilled with niche capabilies TA soldiers employed as GD troops in say a TA inf Bn or RLC tpt regt. There must be engagement with A&SDs to identify pinch-point trades and any potential TA recruit that has a niche skill where there is a capability gap should be referred to an alternative unit. Similarly, examples of specialised TA personnel deploying in a GD role, because it suits the individual, to backfill a regular unit are plentiful. Agreed, its better to mis-employ somebody than carry a gap, but this is happening so regularly we really must revisit the structure of the TA.

They're just my first thoughts, i've got plenty more. But the TA in its current guise is a costly white elephant. We could disband all but the most specilised units (clinicians etc) and add back the budget and personnel to the regular army.
 
#19
goon_bde said:
i had the misfortune to attend the strategic review of reserves brief about 2 months ago...poor presetation, poor analysis and answered very few questions. here's a few ideas:

The TA doesn't represent VFM. TA soldiers have been used as a sticking plaster soultion since 2003 their employment remains a sub-optimal solution. The resources they require is inversly disproportionate to the capability they provide.

Community Engagement is a regular forces task. The TA is not resourced nor has sufficient staff headroom (or experience) to comprehensively engage with the complex issue of community engagement. It has become a self-proficisizing urban-myth that the reserve forces provide a key link into wider society. One only has to observe major projects such as PAC to realise that regular forces give far more to the local community than Captain Mannering Big-Timing it at the water cooler.

TA career profiles and regimental structure. TA junior ranks and subalterns can be readily integrated and utilised within regular units, their is however little or no use for snr officers (less to champion the TA), WOs or SNCOs. Eg when did a TA CSM last deploy as a CSM? Regimental structures are little more than admin functions, a TA unit has neither the capability, experience or capacity to deploy as a formed unit within the construct of a unit in a formation.

Smart recuitment and trade skills. The TA is spectacularly bad at this, eg we have highly skilled with niche capabilies TA soldiers employed as GD troops in say a TA inf Bn or RLC tpt regt. There must be engagement with A&SDs to identify pinch-point trades and any potential TA recruit that has a niche skill where there is a capability gap should be referred to an alternative unit. Similarly, examples of specialised TA personnel deploying in a GD role, because it suits the individual, to backfill a regular unit are plentiful. Agreed, its better to mis-employ somebody than carry a gap, but this is happening so regularly we really must revisit the structure of the TA.

They're just my first thoughts, i've got plenty more. But the TA in its current guise is a costly white elephant. We could disband all but the most specilised units (clinicians etc) and add back the budget and personnel to the regular army.
People join the TA as a change to their everyday working life, not so they can be paid buttons to do the same thing at the weekend or in some sandy sh*te hole.

TA units want to deploy as formed units rather than just be used as IR. This could be done at Pl or Coy level.

Reserve forces do provide a better link to the local community, most soldiers are isolated in married quarters if the live at camp and most single soldiers go away home at the weekend. TA soldiers live and work in the local community and Captain Mannering was in the home guard not the TA, the TA tend to deploy on the same Ops as the regular army not stagging on at the local water tower. Most TA units have a broad wealth of experiance, an Inf Bn can have plumbers, brickies, electricians, jcb operators...etc can a regualar Bn say the same.

Have you had a bad experiance of working with the TA? I have worked with them and found them very capable soldiers, but as with every unit they also have their share of the mongs!
 
#20
goon_bde said:
i had the misfortune to attend the strategic review of reserves brief about 2 months ago...poor presetation, poor analysis and answered very few questions. here's a few ideas:

The TA doesn't represent VFM. TA soldiers have been used as a sticking plaster soultion since 2003 their employment remains a sub-optimal solution. The resources they require is inversly disproportionate to the capability they provide.

Community Engagement is a regular forces task. The TA is not resourced nor has sufficient staff headroom (or experience) to comprehensively engage with the complex issue of community engagement. It has become a self-proficisizing urban-myth that the reserve forces provide a key link into wider society. One only has to observe major projects such as PAC to realise that regular forces give far more to the local community than Captain Mannering Big-Timing it at the water cooler.

TA career profiles and regimental structure. TA junior ranks and subalterns can be readily integrated and utilised within regular units, their is however little or no use for snr officers (less to champion the TA), WOs or SNCOs. Eg when did a TA CSM last deploy as a CSM? Regimental structures are little more than admin functions, a TA unit has neither the capability, experience or capacity to deploy as a formed unit within the construct of a unit in a formation.

Smart recuitment and trade skills. The TA is spectacularly bad at this, eg we have highly skilled with niche capabilies TA soldiers employed as GD troops in say a TA inf Bn or RLC tpt regt. There must be engagement with A&SDs to identify pinch-point trades and any potential TA recruit that has a niche skill where there is a capability gap should be referred to an alternative unit. Similarly, examples of specialised TA personnel deploying in a GD role, because it suits the individual, to backfill a regular unit are plentiful. Agreed, its better to mis-employ somebody than carry a gap, but this is happening so regularly we really must revisit the structure of the TA.

They're just my first thoughts, i've got plenty more. But the TA in its current guise is a costly white elephant. We could disband all but the most specilised units (clinicians etc) and add back the budget and personnel to the regular army.
This coming from the militant wing of eddie stobart. :roll:
 

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