Research question to techies

#1
Recent discussion at work about the prospect of email being replaced by social media (Facebook et al).

What is the view of techies on this? Timescales?
 
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PrinceAlbert

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#2
It's not gonna happen at all, not in it's entirity anyhow.

Can you imagine the SiS using facebook instead of secure comms?
 
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PrinceAlbert

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#3
Or.....Tpr Taff, and Tpr Smudge (the racist) get dropped into enemy grounds.

They lay-up, get squared away, then get the comms kit out. Would they:

a: send an email by burst transmition to send locstat
b: log on facebook and "check him and his mucker in" on faceache?
 
#4
Problem with social media is that you don't know where your data is going, nor who can access it, facebooks a bugger for data mining oppurtunitys. Cloud computing is all very well also but can you guarantee it will be there when you need it ?
 
#5
Highly unlikely, at least not unless an entire generation grow up using social media instead of email for communication, then enter business, and displace email by virtue of position and preference. In it's current state, SM does not allow for easy grouping of subjects or rapid searching, for example. Email is portable, and can be controlled by an organisation. SM is not.

The original comment was made by someone promoting his platform, and who is neither "techie" nor "visionary". "social media" may well turn into a fad, and unless Facebook finds a way to make money it may run into problems when people have a Tokyo moment and realise that it whilst it might be valued at gazillions per share it has little to back that up with other than "data".
 
#6
There is a US University that's ditched email... but can't recall where - and using social media platform... someone from Arrse will studying there now... just a matter of time!
 
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Guns

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#10
In firms most inter person communications is via IM/Chat programmes.

In fact at sea within task groups most inter ship communication is now via chat programmes.

Emails are becoming much more like letters and faxes - formal communications.

Most under 25 year olds are much more used to using IM to communicate rather than email.
 
#11
Just an ignorant question by someone who never uses chat or social media: emails can replace formal written communications because they are easily archived and leave a clear audit trail (i.e. in embedded addressing data, server backups, etc); do chat and other social media formats leave such a clearly-defined record, or are they generally lost?

At the moment I'm looking into ways of preserving text messages in hard copy; I don't know how you'd preserve something important from a chat message box?
 

Guns

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#12
Corporate IM programmes will backup and save chat. IM conversations are as legal as Email and the need to preserve for compliance has led to it being the norm.
 
#13
You could use a chat based forum that was locked off to others. ie your own facebook/bebo/forum that only those you wanted to could view.

You don't actually have to use actual facebook for your comms, just something similar.

ditto, for example, wikipedia. If the software was uploaded to DII (for example) it could then be used to create a wiki but only viewable by those who had access to DII.

You could use OUs Illuminate, where you actualy enter class rooms/rooms to interact with certain people. Or even second life style imagery (that would give the G6 boys some Bandwidth issues!!!).

You could use something like the Chat facility on arrse.
 

Guns

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#14
I used to use the IM programme with DII alot to communicate with others in my field of Info Sup and Info Assurance. Once a decision was made we then emailed it around and then filed that to Record.

It is a great tool and especially for sending abuse to Oppos.
 

BrunoNoMedals

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#15
I don't see how Instant Messaging classes as Social Media. Social Media is publically-accessed data; websites that promote sharing. IM is targetted chat; basically instant-access email. If the media want to confuse the two because IM is seen as something the kids are doing, they're ******* stupid. IM is almost as old as email, and something I was using to get into girls' knickers more than a decade ago (when I was only 50...), long before Facebook, Twitter... even bloody MySpace and Hotmail Profiles.
 

Guns

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#17
Thought so... they're right about:
"It sounds irreplaceable, but there are considerable downsides. According to email provider Sendmail, 90% of those messages are spam, and although filters sift out the majority of junk, the average inbox is still peppered with annoying and time-sapping clutter."

Plus the need to avoid the Leveson Enquiry

 

Wordsmith

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#18
Corporate IM programmes will backup and save chat. IM conversations are as legal as Email and the need to preserve for compliance has led to it being the norm.
Interestingly enough, we've been told that saving a copy of IM messages is a potentially sackable offence. The company's logic runs as follows:

-- Everyone knows that emails are stored on a server and when writing them knows they will be stored.
-- When you send an IM, you don't know if it is being stored or not and are entitled to make an assumption that is is not. Storing IM's is thus regarded as being done without one of the parties consent.

I work for a major American multinational. Go figure...

Wordsmith
 
#19
Interestingly enough, we've been told that saving a copy of IM messages is a potentially sackable offence. The company's logic runs as follows:

-- Everyone knows that emails are stored on a server and when writing them knows they will be stored.
-- When you send an IM, you don't know if it is being stored or not and are entitled to make an assumption that is is not. Storing IM's is thus regarded as being done without one of the parties consent.

I work for a major American multinational. Go figure...

Wordsmith
Odd - my lot are the other way round, company IM servers log everything, no secrets at all from sysadmins, desktop machines chock full if coprorate spyware

Jap multinational with an ex DHS type as infosec director.

Hence tapatalk and my own frickin tablet for the arrse.

Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk 2
 

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