REME Officer retention (NOT)

#1
Firstly DEME(A) resigns his commission.
Now Comd ES 3 Div has resigned.
CO 6 Bn REME has made it clear he intends to resign.
2IC 1 Bn REME has resigned.
Coy Comd 1 Bn REME has resigned.

If we cannot retain Brigadiers, Full Colonels, Lt Colonels (in command) and good Majors what chance have we got.

Makes the REME Recruiting Teams we have set up rather futile. We maybe need a REME Officer Motivation Team. Our leaders are jumping ship, and from plum jobs as well. These jobs used to be coveted, however now they are a springboard to civvy street.

AV88
 
#2
Not just REME AV88. The last few Army Retirements Board results have made sober reading. Some well-respected officers from all Arms and Services are retiring in their late 30's/early 40's. I'll be leaving my job as Supreme Commander of the Asgard soon as well for a more stable life in Valhalla (or, failing that, Rotherham)
 
#4
The question is why are they leaving?
Disatisfaction with prospects, pension, over load of work? Too many commitments and not enough resources or just a better offer in a civilian job?
 
#6
I've always said I would leave when I no longer enjoyed what I was doing. As it happens, I love my current job but felt it best to retire on a high at an age where I have got time for a second career. Long-term prospects do matter (one more promotion, maybe, with many years left to serve?)and a shrinking Army means vicious competition for the 'best' jobs. I'm not prepared to sacrifice my marriage and family life to work all hours for jam tomorrow.
 
#8
Pension point is a good time to go - cash influx to pay off a chunk of the mortgage and still relatively young. The jam tomorrow idea that the Army mistakenly believes will entice people to stay is naive at best - there just are not the promotion opportunities that there were and the Army does not pay enough to make up for that. Mercenary, I know, but my ambition extends further than a long line of SO2 jobs and the vague possibility of promotion at 42ish. And there's only so long I can hold out against the long haired general's demands to resurrect her career.
 
#9
The other key times are 2 years after a promotion, to qualify for the full benefits of the rank in your pension (and the jump from Maj to Lt Col is significant) or at the end of a Command tour, when the last job on your CV is the most impressive (usually). Of course, if you're in a post in the DLO or DPA that has strong links with a contractor, it could be a very good time to go!
 
#10
Cairngorm said:
Devilishdave said:
Poofs the lot of em!!

Dave
Your an expert on them are you?
I guess you are basing that question on the theory that any one who questions the sexuality of another is in fact gay them self. Sorry to disappoint but no not an expert, that theory was created by poofs to try to dodge flack so if the cap fits get it on your head!

Love and kisses Devilishdave
 
#11
Devilishdave said:
Cairngorm said:
Devilishdave said:
Poofs the lot of em!!

Dave
Your an expert on them are you?
I guess you are basing that question on the theory that any one who questions the sexuality of another is in fact gay them self. Sorry to disappoint but no not an expert, that theory was created by poofs to try to dodge flack so if the cap fits get it on your head!

Love and kisses Devilishdave

Sorry to disappoint you, I was only asking for an answer on your remarks. Personally I don't give a rats arse what you are. Although I do detect a strong whiff of bullshit in your post.
 
#12
Come on guys, we already have one of the most boring forums on the site, lets not drag decent threads down to this level as well.

To take it slightly off track, where does this leave guys who want a LE commission? I just looks as though the corps is going slowly down the drain and no one is doing anything to halt the slide.
 
#13
sparky8 said:
Come on guys, we already have one of the most boring forums on the site, lets not drag decent threads down to this level as well.

To take it slightly off track, where does this leave guys who want a LE commission? I just looks as though the corps is going slowly down the drain and no one is doing anything to halt the slide.
http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=19405/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html

some info here on the LE side, but as u said sparky8 the REME is going down the pan in general i think. just glad i jumped ship last year when i did!!

who is gonna halt the slide?? when it hits the bottom or are senior REME officers going to realise pretty quick there is a big problem in the corps??
 
#14
Getting back to the point, if the Corps' policy of removing officers from command if they PVR stands for all ranks, they should all be gone by Christmas. I am sure there are plenty willing volunteers waiting to take their place. If the Corps is 'going down the pan', then surely it is time for a change. Proper officers do not threaten to leave. When they want to go they just get on with it.
 
#16
Comd Es 3 Div looked me in the eye and answered a question of mine by saying our Corps didnt have a Recruiting and Retention problem!
His blurb went along from worse to worse spiralling into the crock of shite we all saw thru'
Rose tinted glasses are gonna be on issue to all REME soldiers (they will come with your Four free TRF's)
Ha ha what a stroker.
He did also look at my name tag on the way out, whoops.
Catchyerselfon stretches across the whole of my top left hand pocket.
Make the best of the gaps that are coming everyone and do what we all do best, try a little harder, not feck off when the going gets a little tough(and you get a really good job offer!)
 
#17
Yeah, but isn't he the bloke who sold us 'DEME(A) Engineering Standards?

Talking to Officers in my neck of the woods, there isn't many that are looking for a career, most are happy with a few years and then off to civvy street.

LEs I speak to especially are just plain fed up. Not all of them but lots of 'em!
 
#18
howling said:
Getting back to the point, if the Corps' policy of removing officers from command if they PVR stands for all ranks, they should all be gone by Christmas. I am sure there are plenty willing volunteers waiting to take their place. If the Corps is 'going down the pan', then surely it is time for a change. Proper officers do not threaten to leave. When they want to go they just get on with it.
So I'm doing the 'decent' thing then :wink:
 
#19
catchyerselfon said:
Make the best of the gaps that are coming everyone and do what we all do best, try a little harder, not feck off when the going gets a little tough(and you get a really good job offer!)
i agree with most of your post catchy but this bit i disagree with, the corps has been struggling on for years due to undermanning and still managing to get the job done, do you call 3 VM's in a CR2 Sqn Ftr Sect adequate? Cpl, L/Cpl and a Cfn, no VM Sgt. and at a unit with work load similar to BATUS. you work all the hours god sends and do the job. when you do, noone notices the problems, so how long can you go on making ends meet?

maybe this is why offrs are leaving and going to civvy street, they do not have the tools (ie manpower) anymore to carry out the job at hand.

As nige said the LE's and no doubt the DE guys are threaders. And no doubt the rest of the corps that are vastly affected by undermanning, i know i was towards the end. and i didnt threaten, i went into the Coy office and just signed off!
 
#20
Comd ES 3 Div is correct when he says recruitng is ok. However, retention is the issue and this needs to be tackled and quickly. What would keep you in?
Nige, sorry, he is not the guy who sold us Engr Stds.
 

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