I am assisting with running a LAD leadership/mil trng week for my LAD in June. We want to put all the JNCO's into the positions of command for the week and run them through what REME would do in the field/on Ops. The object is to get them tired, hungry and into scenarios they would not normally come up against. My OC isn't keen on it being an Infantry type week, but he does want them to do what a fitter section would do in the field, tactically. If anyone has any ideas/scenarios that we could incorporate that has worked for them, they would be gratefully recieved!
REME Leadership/mil trng- any ideas?
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You didnt say whether you are armoured or not ? If so lots of track bashing work - changing out a links etc or even half tracking - escorting drills - mobile ambush drills - First Aid - Casevac - Actions on IED, incoming mortar rounds, proxy bombs - use competitions where possible ie recovery of trailers filled with weight from ditch etc - sleep deprivation -incoming at the right times - Stand tos in cold wet conditions. Command tasks - Communication exercises - Camp Defence - Camp Security patrols etc etc
From past exercises:
Putting SADCHAP into practise,always good
Tactical approach to a (Veh) Casualty, mines, booby trap awareness etc
BDR, fuel pump out of Jerrycan on roof, improvised radiator etc
Take the Machie Trl, bit of local manufacture late at night is always good.
The list is endless with a bit of imagination, take note of the type of scenarios on Western Approaches/Southern Craftsman/Scottish Bluebell(I think)
PM me if you want more details
Putting SADCHAP into practise,always good
Tactical approach to a (Veh) Casualty, mines, booby trap awareness etc
BDR, fuel pump out of Jerrycan on roof, improvised radiator etc
Take the Machie Trl, bit of local manufacture late at night is always good.
The list is endless with a bit of imagination, take note of the type of scenarios on Western Approaches/Southern Craftsman/Scottish Bluebell(I think)
PM me if you want more details
As a general sickener/demoraliser just cam up, de-cam, move 5 feet and cam up again. Repeat as often as is necessary to piss the troops off then tell them there is no scoff until they get to their new location which is not likely to be until the next 12 hrs or so.
Used to work wonders for motivation except this was for real not just an exercise plan.
Used to work wonders for motivation except this was for real not just an exercise plan.
I often wondered this, certainly when I was serving (80s) REME were by and large often short of drivers so they tended not to give a fcuk. Mind you REME used to re-write the rule book to suit themselves even if the odd person got killed here and there.
One Unit I was at even removed all the windows from soft skin vehicles to stop drivers falling asleep. Early Nov in BAOR this was no joke for those who had to share the cab.
TB
One Unit I was at even removed all the windows from soft skin vehicles to stop drivers falling asleep. Early Nov in BAOR this was no joke for those who had to share the
cab.TB
The simple answer is they just don't mix. however, there is way around it. If you are not leaving the Training area Drivers hours do not count as it only comes into effect on public highways. Hence the use of trg in Poland were you can really beast the troops.
When you finish the exercise the chaps have to have a unbroken period of 9 Hrs before driving on public highways.
Dvr hours recently changed and if the vehicle is double manned you can now task the vehicle for a straight 18 hr period (both dvrs hours add together). This has really helped and if you learn how to legally max out the rules you can still make the Ex very tiring (But not sleep deprivated).
When you finish the exercise the chaps have to have a unbroken period of 9 Hrs before driving on public highways.
Dvr hours recently changed and if the vehicle is double manned you can now task the vehicle for a straight 18 hr period (both dvrs hours add together). This has really helped and if you learn how to legally max out the rules you can still make the Ex very tiring (But not sleep deprivated).
The first thing that you need to do is check with your boss what he wants to achieve during the training period; training for training sake will p*ss the troops off sharpish. Find out what level of training you are working towards (CTC 1 or 2, I would guess) and then check the Training Objectives (TOs) in Annex H (REME Annex) of the LAND Command Training Manual, which is available on the LAND Web. It will tell you exactly what you need to achieve and covers mil and STA activities; from there you can design your training around the set TOs.
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REME Leadership/mil trng- any ideas?
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:34 pm
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I am assisting with running a LAD leadership/mil trng week for my LAD in June. We want to put all the JNCO's into the positions of command for the week and run them through what REME would do in the field/on Ops. The object is to get them tired, hungry and into scenarios they would not normally come up against. My OC isn't keen on it being an Infantry type week, but he does want them to do what a fitter section would do in the field, tactically. If anyone has any ideas/scenarios that we could incorporate that has worked for them, they would be gratefully recieved!
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Hi just curious on the leadership /mil training for the LAD on where you coming from?
You want the LAD juniors to be tired,hungry etc situations not normal to thier enviroment.
I'd just like to point out I was in the Infantry for 4 years and transfered to the REME 10 years ago . REME are quite familiar with the terms fatigue and hungar especially when working operational shifts 24hrs on 24 off fixing the kit that other arms tend to break but thats life and thats what we are there for .
Just one last thing what are the Tiffys doing ? Is this not thier job?
Maybe a few recovery/repair while under fire scenarios I think would go down a treat .
REME and military training go hand in hand Ask 2 PARA who won the Bruneval cup 12 mile tab above all the Battalion in 2002 ask the woofers how many times the lad have won Battalion competions.
Enough said
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REME Leadership/mil trng- any ideas?
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:34 pm
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I am assisting with running a LAD leadership/mil trng week for my LAD in June. We want to put all the JNCO's into the positions of command for the week and run them through what REME would do in the field/on Ops. The object is to get them tired, hungry and into scenarios they would not normally come up against. My OC isn't keen on it being an Infantry type week, but he does want them to do what a fitter section would do in the field, tactically. If anyone has any ideas/scenarios that we could incorporate that has worked for them, they would be gratefully recieved!
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Hi just curious on the leadership /mil training for the LAD on where you coming from?
You want the LAD juniors to be tired,hungry etc situations not normal to thier enviroment.
I'd just like to point out I was in the Infantry for 4 years and transfered to the REME 10 years ago . REME are quite familiar with the terms fatigue and hungar especially when working operational shifts 24hrs on 24 off fixing the kit that other arms tend to break but thats life and thats what we are there for .
Just one last thing what are the Tiffys doing ? Is this not thier job?
Maybe a few recovery/repair while under fire scenarios I think would go down a treat .
REME and military training go hand in hand Ask 2 PARA who won the Bruneval cup 12 mile tab above all the Battalion in 2002 ask the woofers how many times the lad have won Battalion competions.
Enough said
Aye I think you hit the nail on the head Gundoc. We as REME are way too quick to put ourselves down. We are good soldiers, its just that our trained soldiering skills don't get exercised that often due to our primary taskings. As far as training for a weekend goes well. If I were running it I would make it as enjoyable as I could (taking training does get tedious). Fire in alot of team competitions, give the lads alot of free reign for responsibility, DON'T read the REME training manual, train relevant to taskings and above all have a bloody good BBQ with beer for the boys on the Sunday.
Why not, just for once, treat them exactly as you'd expect to get treated on op's while giving them challenging and interesting tasks to complete?
Don't FCUK them around, as that tends to de-value the actual training/learning benefit.
Get them tired by all means, as that is a usual part of the deployment scenario, but moving them 5 feet (for example) will achieve nothing, except to turn them off to you and produce the bare minimum or have them wrap completely.
Realistic training is so much better than being given stupid, meaningless tasks. Usuaully the harder it is, the better they respond, so long as they are not messed about unnecessarily.
It's your choice, but think how you'd want the training to be conducted if you were on the receiving end.
Don't FCUK them around, as that tends to de-value the actual training/learning benefit.
Get them tired by all means, as that is a usual part of the deployment scenario, but moving them 5 feet (for example) will achieve nothing, except to turn them off to you and produce the bare minimum or have them wrap completely.
Realistic training is so much better than being given stupid, meaningless tasks. Usuaully the harder it is, the better they respond, so long as they are not messed about unnecessarily.
It's your choice, but think how you'd want the training to be conducted if you were on the receiving end.
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