REME Battalions - pulling their weight?

#1
There is an old adage about the Corps:

REME is like horse manure. Spread thinly and widely (LAD's) its brings everything up smelling like roses. Lumped together (Bn) it rots and stinks like shite.

Are REME Battalions currently giving the first line units good service?
 
#2
Not in my experience, the planning behind the big lump is somewhere offline....by which I mean we have an increasing number of guys/girls who are not good at their trade because the Bn concentrates on other issues, this is shown up when you get a poorly trained FRT turn up to do a job and they either stuff it up or take 3 times as long to do it, hence the amount of self help. Mind you we all spend so much time on MATTS now it's a wonder we do anything at all, was going to use the toilet earlier but didn't have a pass in wiping my own backside so I just did it in my pants.
 
#3
Hmmmm, dont know if I agree totally with the above comment.

Having served at 2Bn, couple years back now, I found certain elements of the Bn very proffesional, with good tradesman and planning.

That said there were some that werent quite up to scratch, I suppouse it depends on what your personal experience is though.

Again I have heard some shocking things about other Bn but having not served their myself not prepared to make my mind up. I think it can be a little to easy to say all 2nd line units are dog toffy because of the expected bulls**t level, when in reality they have a lot of good things going for them.

And as far as Matts go...you dont have to be a Bn to have Matts coming out your arrse. Believe me a unit I served with had three, one week MATT camps a year !!!!!!
 
#4
Cyclical – depends on who is in the battalions at the time and how they are run. Like most things it is the professionalism of the incumbents that determine how the establishment is run and the standard of the output.

This obviously applies to LADs as well and all is governed by the standard of personnel ‘supplied’ by the training organisation.
 
#5
Far from pulling their weight the only thing that REME Bns pull is their penises. That is from both sexes.
 
#7
Second line have to realise that every single thing they do must be to support first line or to enable them to support first line or they just become yet another self licking lollypop REME Bn. I might add I have seen some fantastic REME Bns in the past.

Dave
 
#9
6 Bn like the rest of us are somewhat short of manpower, just about everywhere is critically undermanned.
 
#10
Having just spent an Op Tour working along side the 2nd Line lot, I have to say that they have all the good intentions to support the 1st line units best they can, unfortunately they compilcate even the simplest of tasks asked of them. The HQ element are far to engrossed in doing over detailed plans, complex orders and fancy looking time-line charts etc, when simple and practical decision making is all that is needed. This alas, is simply a way for them to collect those ever important brownie points and to ensure all that Doctrine Trg and those endless planning exercises do not go to waste.
 
#11
Can someone more current than myself explain the difference between a REME battalion & what was known as a Field Workshop.... or is it just a new name for the same thing ?
 
#13
So, as a bloke who has never served at a Bn but is just about to go, what do they do well & why is it so. What don't they do well, why isnt it so good and how could it be done better?

Cheers
 
#15
I had the best 2 years of my career at 2Bn, but it just like every other unit in the Army, the people make the place. It annoys me when Bn's are constanly ripped, mainly by folk that have little or no experience serving in one.

Yes there is a certain amount off bullsh1t and niff naff, but the good times I had far outweighed the bad ones and I would go back tomorrow if I had the chance.
 
#16
sparky8 said:
So, as a bloke who has never served at a Bn but is just about to go, what do they do well & why is it so. What don't they do well, why isnt it so good and how could it be done better?

Cheers
Sparky,

Loads of good tradesmen, Just because its "2nd Line" doesn't automatically make them anything else overnight. But beware of the " command group", and knowing what appointment you will be doing, you'll have loads of dealings with them.
Young DEs you can educate them and generally they will listen, but they need looking after otherwise they are just dangerous. LEs are only after one thing, their first Command Appointment, so they will F**k everyone over to get them recognised/ticks in boxes to get what they want.
Basically IMHO the Bns have grown too large to be 100% effective and managable, but I expect this has also has a lot to do with our current doctrine. I 'll let you make your own mind up when you get there, but it is very very different from 1st line mate.

Regards
 
#17
vampireuk said:
6 Bn like the rest of us are somewhat short of manpower, just about everywhere is critically undermanned.
How are they undermanned? isnt the reme nearly fully manned now? due to recession etc

I know its taking months for re-joins to get back in and over a year for new starter to get even to basic trg because that many ppl are knocking on the door of the careers office
 
#18
I spent 12 yrs at a REME Bn as a civvie and frankly it was pants . As someone already said it was all ticks in boxes and career planning for the head shed ..including their Civvie careers !!

It was all fads & re-inventing the wheel ... first of all it was Total Quality bollox then before I left it was Lean engineering again ... career planning for the "ILLUMINATI " in puzzle palace .

The moral was bordering on sub terraenean !!
 
#19
steven8661 said:
vampireuk said:
6 Bn like the rest of us are somewhat short of manpower, just about everywhere is critically undermanned.
How are they undermanned? isnt the reme nearly fully manned now? due to recession etc
Somebody should inform Glasgow we are fully manned then so we can get all the tradesmen posted in to fill the gaps!
 
#20
6 bn aint that bad, has got a lot better over the last year, i for one am putting in for an extension there.
 
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