Religion.......

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Any thoughts, tips of how to talk somebody out of it?

My mothers recently converted to a Jehovah's Witness, I really feel it's taking over, she goes to meetings at least three times a week, it's getting as far a driving a wedge in between me and my mother, I dont have any religious beliefs, my mother use to be a Christian but only went to church at christmas if she remembered, she's gone from almost no faith to on the edge of obsession (In my opinion).

It's sad if you ask me, even sadder that it's driving a wedge in between us...

Any constructive thoughts? Anyone been in a similar situation

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum
 
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#3
If it's not too personal, has anything else been going on in her life which has led her to this? It may be easier to sort the other issue(s) first, then deal with the excessive superstition.

Ski.
 
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SkiCarver said:
If it's not too personal, has anything else been going on in her life which has led her to this? It may be easier to sort the other issue(s) first, then deal with the excessive superstition.

Ski.
Not that I'm aware of, a few years ago she started going to church again, for a brief period, then announced she was making the switch 8O
 
#5
There are lots of Anti JW websites and most local churches have pamphlets that will give you a lot of advice but...
This is all new and raw to her. She will have been warned that those outside her church will do everything they can to dissuade her and will be keeping close contact with her. Be patient, if you can, just carry on loving her and dont let her see you are so anti or you will be blamed for the wedge. Invite her as much as possible to things away from her church but not in a way that shows any resentment. If you are still serving your Padre may be able to help. Good luck. I have dealt with JW in the past they usually go in pairs or more to "protect" new converts. When she is on her own, or if you can get her on her own talk rationally to her and let her know your fears and worries. Getting irate will not help, after all despite this she is still your Mum. That is the bit to hang onto and to let her know.
 
#6
If you can't beat them....join them. Then you can both pop round my house on a Sunday, when I'm trying to relax and shake off a hangover, and wonder why I tell you politely to "p1ss off" ;)
 
#7
just be there to support her, when she needs you. she will have to find out for herself i'm afraid.

H.
 
#8
slimjim said:
Any thoughts, tips of how to talk somebody out of it?

My mothers recently converted to a Jehovah's Witness, I really feel it's taking over, she goes to meetings at least three times a week, it's getting as far a driving a wedge in between me and my mother, I dont have any religious beliefs, my mother use to be a Christian but only went to church at christmas if she remembered, she's gone from almost no faith to on the edge of obsession (In my opinion).

It's sad if you ask me, even sadder that it's driving a wedge in between us...

Any constructive thoughts? Anyone been in a similar situation

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum
http://www.greatcom.org/resources/handbook_of_todays_religions/01chap05/default.htm

Apart from that,I'm afraid you have lost her to the kiddie-fiddlers

http://www.exjws.net/sexabuse/sexmain.htm
 
#9
you may wish to look at skepticality dot com or centerforinquiry dot net. they can be interesting forums and they have some interesting threads on related subjects.

Ski.
 
#10
I had a mate who was captured by the JW when he was a bit down over some stuff going on in his life.

He is over it now and back on the beer but it did take a while. The real problem as I discovered with him, was the issue of blood transfusions, He was a biker and had a pretty hefty prang, I was there and as the medics were dealing with him he kept telling me not to allow them to give him a transfusion, I think I said somthing like fcuk you mate you have got young kids and a wife( who were not JW). As it was he did not need a tranfusion but some time later over a beer he said that at the time he would have chucked his life away for what he now realised was nonsense.
 
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Slimjim, the Jehovah's Witness brainwash those who are a prime target, those who are low self esteem, those who feel they have lost thier way, or those who THEY can lead easily.
Much like the Morons!
I have had all sorts knocking on my door, I invite them in and then take them apart, as they quote parts on the bible at me, I remind them what other passages tell us, the refute that and we then discuss!
I am not a church goer, but I am a Christian and all these FRING splinter groups ONLY exsist because and as in the case of the Morons, the mother of SMITH was a Palm reader his father a gold digger and he, SMITH heard voices, is was probably the Moonshine!

Look at Tom Cruise as this bloody sciontology gig!

Still live and let live, we all stumble and at times need help. :)
 
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CharlieBubbles said:
Slimjim, the Jehovah's Witness brainwash those who are a prime target, those who are low self esteem, those who feel they have lost thier way, or those who THEY can lead easily.
Much like the Morons!
I have had all sorts knocking on my door, I invite them in and then take them apart, as they quote parts on the bible at me, I remind them what other passages tell us, the refute that and we then discuss!
I am not a church goer, but I am a Christian and all these FRING splinter groups ONLY exsist because and as in the case of the Morons, the mother of SMITH was a Palm reader his father a gold digger and he, SMITH heard voices, is was probably the Moonshine!

Look at Tom Cruise as this bloody sciontology gig!

Still live and let live, we all stumble and at times need help. :)
So, does she need a shag?

I'm available.
 
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Chibber said:
CharlieBubbles said:
Slimjim, the Jehovah's Witness brainwash those who are a prime target, those who are low self esteem, those who feel they have lost thier way, or those who THEY can lead easily.
Much like the Morons!
I have had all sorts knocking on my door, I invite them in and then take them apart, as they quote parts on the bible at me, I remind them what other passages tell us, the refute that and we then discuss!
I am not a church goer, but I am a Christian and all these FRING splinter groups ONLY exsist because and as in the case of the Morons, the mother of SMITH was a Palm reader his father a gold digger and he, SMITH heard voices, is was probably the Moonshine!

Look at Tom Cruise as this bloody sciontology gig!

Still live and let live, we all stumble and at times need help. :)
So, does she need a shag?

I'm available.
That's 10 Hail Mary's and 10 Amen's you wicked wicked man!

Had you said Made Love to, there would have been NO problem :wink:
 
#16
It,s surprising how many different kinds of people you meet on your "Road to Damascus", but, as Ghandi is quoted as saying, "There is room for us all", or J.C saying "In my Fathers House, there are many Mansions".
 
#17
Verry worrying.

Always be worried about a cult that excludes you from your family and friends, a proper religion will welcome the family (even if they do not share the same beliefs) and offer support.

About 3 years ago while I was at work and my wife went downstairs with the washing, and found 2 JWs in our kitchen!!! They beat a hasty retreat!
 
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raggedy said:
It,s surprising how many different kinds of people you meet on your "Road to Damascus", but, as Ghandi is quoted as saying, "There is room for us all", or J.C saying "In my Fathers House, there are many Mansions".
There's clearly no mansion reserved for the Jehova's Witness organisation.
It is a cult - a perversion of reality.
Ghandi may have been correct in believing that there is potentially room for us all but Jesus Christ made very clear that the road was narrow and only few would make the journey-

You can enter God’s Kingdom, (Jesus says) only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad and its gate is wide for the many who choose the easy way. But the gateway to life is small, and the road is narrow, and only a few ever find it. (Matthew 7:13-14)
The JW organisation is a cult that brainwashes it's followers with a false gospel and rips families apart- don't ever underestimate it's dangers.
 

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LE
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#19
Religeous differences, my imaginary friend is bigger than your imaginary friend.-Kim Du Toit!
 
#20
God is everywhere, however with many of these fringe groups, there intrerest in you and yours in the MONEY!

Witness's expect you to sign over a part of your wages, this will help your passage into heavan.

I was born a Christian and I WILL die a Christian and as I know no other religion where you are welcomed with open arms and it costs you no more than a bit on your time in the house of God. Although I have not been into a church for some years, the House of God is all around us, all of the time.

When I was low in the 1990's the Witness's tried to win me over, but I stood strong and they drifted away, where the local C of E crew were always there, no matter what.

Slimjim, watch your mother bank account!!
 

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