Many on ARRSE dispair at the 'reliability' of our NATO allies in Europe, and scoff at the thought of an EU Force capable of doing anything meaningful. There is more than just a little substance in this concern. However, it would be good to also understand the perceptions of our European allies in this too. I come up against this issue on a regular basis and, frankly, I'm getting rather fed up with having to trot out the same old excuses. Consider this... The EU has been running the military mission in Bosnia for some time now. Originally the UK was a major player, but has subsequently pulled out due to "commitments elsewhere". Kosovo could well become another EU military operation if the Ahtisaari plan is implemented - again, another location the UK has withdrawn from citing "commitments elsewhere". Last week, the EU agreed to send a 3,700 strong force to CAR/Chad - which, if you keep up to date, has just turned a little hotter than expected. And guess what, no UK involvement beyond a staff officer. More info from this press release: http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_Data/docs/pressdata/en/misc/98416.pdf So, to sum up, three significant military operations under EU C2, and hardly a whiff of UK involvement. I know HMAF a little busy in other trouble spots, but just who is it that is the 'unreliable partner'? How will a meaningful EU force ever gain credibility, if the most potent performer always refuses to join in? Discuss.