Rejoining (3rd time)

#1
Hi,

just want peoples opinions on this before i go off to the AFCO with my statement to go with my AF B203 to Glasgow.

Ive been in the army twice never finishing phase 1.

The first time i joined was a while back when i was 17, i signed up for the RLC as a driver, although i wantd to join the infantry my mum had to sign her permission to join. She would only do this if i didnt go in a combat role, which i accepted and got on with it. Got to phase 1 and loved it, then after about 5 weeks my grandmother was taken ill and passed away. I was given compassionate leave and backsquadded to week 2. I came back and tried to get on with it which i did for another 8 weeks but i was getting told that my mum wasnt coping so well at home and decided to DAOR.

I rejoined 2 years later hoping i could finally join the infantry, i was told the army needed me in the RLC as a driver/rad op, confused but eager to get off civvy street i agreed to rejoin on these terms which i totally regret.

I completed a further 7 weeks of training while talking to the welfare officer and platoon staff about my unhappiness of the job i was going to be going to. I ended up being given an ultimatum - leave the army under SNLR or continue and join the RLC. I decided to leave and hopefully one day be able to go back and join the infantry.

Does anyone think its at all possible that i could re join and finally get my wish of joining the infantry? 3rd time lucky and all that??

Ive never been in any trouble while ive been there and am currently awaiting a conduct report from Kentigern House to show the AFCO/send to Glasgow.
 
#2
I rejoined the one time and I believe I saw that you can only rejoin the once in my contract.
 
#3
Have a feeling Glasgow are going to say NO
 

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#5
Simple solution:

Toddle off down to the ACIO and ask. Then you will getthe definitive answer rather than relying on ill informed speculative comments on here.
 
#6
Unfortunately I fear if you have been discharged with SNLR, I highly doubt you will have a 3rd bite of the cherry.

Not to read between the lines but with the ecominic downturn it is inevitable fact that the army can now be more choosey in manning, although we currently are undermanned.

More people will tend to join, when there are no jobs on the employment market, as people do not want to be on the jam roll.

I joined at time where the job market was shiote and owing to where I am geographically from.

I am not mystic meg but I predict there will be growing trend in selection and recruitment as the civilian market declines...

Just for my 16 pence worth for every year I have served.
 
#7
Doesnt seem likely you will get another crack, but hey, you never know.......
 
#8
If you left the Arm under QRs Para 9.414 (SNLR) you're fcuked and you are NOT coming back, me thinks there must be a credit crunch going on (how cynical eh)!

Ubique
 
#9
How about re-joining for a second time? My lad due home today after failing a CDT. However, at his, what I assume to be exit interview, he was told he can re-apply in nine months time. Anyone aware of the procedure at all? I am sure after nine months dwelling on what a complete bell end he has been he may well be keen to do so.

On the same issue, but slightly different points - assuming he were allowed to re-enlist would he keep his original army number and would he still go through basic again as if he were joining from scratch?

Cheers for any replies that may be forthcoming. Those of you that want to say he his a complete prick etc etc can do so to their hearts content, it's nothing I havent told the little shite.
 
#10
^^^^^^ re-join after a CDT fail?? I sincerely hope that it is not the Army's policy to let these idiots re-join. How is getting kicked out meant to be a deterrent if there is a loophole to get back in..........................???
 
#11
SNLR is a big boot up the arrse (ie don't come back).Fully trained SP have been binned after failing CDT - I doubt they'd let a crow back in.However, there is always the exception, but don't get your hopes up.
 
#12
Hopes are not overly raised to be honest, but it is what he was told. I must confess I do find it somewhat strange they would even consider having him back, but he was told he can re-apply in nine months. Despite his plea to Glasgow he has been binned. I would tend to agree with you that if being turfed out for the length of a pregnancy is the punishment then its really no deterrent at all.
 
#13
Frayed Knot didn't the lad also get done for assault in Osnatraz? Sounds like the Army has done the correct thing in getting rid and the wrong thing in giving him any hope of getting back in!

Soldiers need quality people they can totally rely on - not idiots like your son. He is your problem, don't try to pass him on!
 
#14
No he wasnt done but told there were no charges to answer. Yep by the letter of the law/rulebook they have done the right thing - besides which, I am sure he was fully aware on the rules surrounding drugs. As for giving hope of getting back in, they said, you can re-apply in nine months time, whether he will or not remains to be seen. As things stand its more my hope than his.

You may judge him as you see fit, it bothers me not, however, I would be inclined to say he has done a couple/few idiotic things than brand him an idiot. Not trying to pass him on to anyone, I am just looking out for him as best I can. Think he is more his own problem than mine.
 
#15
Gunner_REMF said:
If you left the Arm under QRs Para 9.414 (SNLR) you're fcuked and you are NOT coming back, me thinks there must be a credit crunch going on (how cynical eh)!

Ubique
im not doing it just because i need a job, im actually earning more on civvy street but im not happy, i miss the army. Also as i was offered the chance to stay or leave due to my performance at training. at the time i wanted to leave and did so, a mistake on my part as i know i should of stayed. in interviews the CO and welfare officer told me that they hoped i would change my mind about leaving.

And dont hold the first discharge against me, it wasnt because i didnt like it or couldnt handle it, im and only child and my mum had just lost her mother 8 months after her father and the news from home was that she was becoming very unwell. What else could i do but be there for her?
 
#16
Andris, go for it, I am not sure how you are missing something you haven´t spent much time in... but.

ACIO etc, are the best bet. It might not be an easy road, but if this is reallywhat you want to do (bearing in mind your two previous attempts) then crack on.

Don´t get tied up by the Inf. You may never serve with them. But just put your best in to whatever you get. Bear in mind, someone migt have to put trust in you to complete Basic, if they do, make sure you get to the end this time. I have seen good men, trust fcuk sticks who have let them down and bailed.... again.

Good luck.

Frayed Knot. I have come across you mentioning your son before, albeit all I really know at this point is that he has been kicked out for a CDT Fail.....

I have NEVER come across a CDT Fail remount. Eitehr he is lieing to you or both you and himself. I have a horrible feeling, for you, that in 9 months either he actually tries to rejoin and gets fcuked off or he comes up with a bone reason for not trying to rejoin.

CDT failures are not really encouraged to remount.
 
#17
You miss the army? What do you really know about the army???YOU HAVE ATTENDED AND LEFT BASIC TRAINING TWICE!! I very very much doubt that you will get anathor bite, these are hard times for hard people and we can not afford to invest in a waste of time.
 
#18
Gunner_REMF said:
If you left the Arm under QRs Para 9.414 (SNLR) you're fcuked and you are NOT coming back, me thinks there must be a credit crunch going on (how cynical eh)!

Ubique
Me thinks your a bit cynical old timer... :D

Up the Vale
 
#19
TRAZTAZ said:
You miss the army? What do you really know about the army???YOU HAVE ATTENDED AND LEFT BASIC TRAINING TWICE!! I very very much doubt that you will get anathor bite, these are hard times for hard people and we can not afford to invest in a waste of time.
Erm the discipline, the comraderie, DRLL IS BRILL, the PT, the live firing, the exercises, the ironing, the inspections, bulling boots, washing kit, feeling damn proud to wear the uniform.................

If you hold the first discharge against me then i think your being totally harsh, sure the second time I left but I knew i wouldnt have any operational effectiveness being unhappy, no one wanted me to leave but I dont want the guy next to me to get hit cause im not 100%

If i get this opportunity trust me i wont be leaving again.
 
#20
Going to have to disagree with a lot of the stuff on here with this one, from what i can see and from what experience i have of recruiting (and also the figures at the moment), there is nothing to suggest (on face value) that you will not get another chance to join.

The key is whether or not the AFCO/ACIO give you a strong enough recommendation on the 203 interview, if they feel you are worth a chance then i do not see any reason GLasgow would have to reject you.

But it is entirely up to them, i have seen worse cases than this go forward i can assure you.


On the subject of the re-enlistment having failed a CDT, then the current stance tends to be 'not a chance', simply because there is no excuses and they are all made fully aware of the policy prior to joining.

In fairness, i would give the chance to the lad who wants in for a 3rd time, before giving it to someone that completely wasted his chance because he can't follow simple and clear instructions :)
 
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