Mate your pissing in the wind, no dabber is going to admit that Tiffs were worth it. From what is said an ET can pick their rate up just as quickly but what training and education do they have to fall back on. I always said and stick by the adage that I wasn’t rated or paid for what I did but what I could do when the chips were down.Qualified for the job, you got the rate. Class mate of mine got his Boiler ticket/MEA2 Fleetboard/Unit ticket within 20 months of leaving Caledonia. Joined his next ship as an A/MEA2 and was immediately rated Local Acting MEA1. The job of Chief of the Watch carried the rate of CPO.